Flash vs Hulk

Started by Alfheim53 pages
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Great so you finally agree that Sentry wasn't traveling at light speed. 👆

No im just done arguing. Hell ive even heard other posters say that Iron Man can travel at lighspeed. Hell thats the most advanced version of IM so I dont see why its such a stretch. Wiki is not offical but its states that Sentry has travelled to the sun and back in minutes. *shrug*

Anyway each to their own.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No im just done arguing. Hell ive even heard other posters say that Iron Man can travel at lighspeed. Hell thats the most advanced version of IM so I dont see why its such a stretch. Wiki is not offical but its states that Sentry has travelled to the sun and back in minutes. *shrug*

Anyway each to their own.

In minutes, that is any where from 2 to 59, not very accurate if you ask me. I wouldn’t take a poster as the truth, show me a scan of him traveling at light speed then you may have something. That is the point you keep wanting to stretch and not back it up.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
In minutes, that is any where from 2 to 59, not very accurate if you ask me.

No I dont think it mean 50 mintues it means most likely a few or several according to that logic when somebody says seconds that could be 1000, obvoulsy not. As far as im concerned those scans implied that he was travelling at lightspeed.

Originally posted by Da Pittman

I wouldn’t take a poster as the truth, show me a scan of him traveling at light speed then you may have something. That is the point you keep wanting to stretch and not back it up.

Look forget it. You have your opinion I have mine.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No I dont think it mean 50 mintues

That's right, you didn't think.

Originally posted by llagrok
That's right, you didn't think.

Well thats your opinion. When somebody says minutes or seconds the impression I get is that they are trying to imply fast speed so putting it at 59 minutes is going overboard.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No I dont think it mean 50 mintues it means most likely a few or several according to that logic when somebody says seconds that could be 1000, obvoulsy not. As far as im concerned those scans implied that he was travelling at lightspeed.

Look forget it. You have your opinion I have mine.

It is not a matter of opinion in how you are trying to back up your statement; you are trying to say something is an absolute in a general statement. Just like saying he jumped high, you say that you can give us how high and fast he jumped when there is no time frame or reference to the height. Iron Man doesn’t say that it will hold for minutes or seconds only that it will not hold forever so you can not base the speed without time and distance, comic panels do not represent any calculated passage of time. One frame could be seconds or hours, in the one panel it has him traveling past the moon and the next he is at the sun.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
It is not a matter of opinion in how you are trying to back up your statement; you are trying to say something is an absolute in a general statement. Just like saying he jumped high, you say that you can give us how high and fast he jumped when there is no time frame or reference to the height. Iron Man doesn’t say that it will hold for minutes or seconds only that it will not hold forever so you can not base the speed without time and distance, comic panels do not represent any calculated passage of time. One frame could be seconds or hours, in the one panel it has him traveling past the moon and the next he is at the sun.

Look if you dont think he was travelling at lightspeed then thats up to you. Its not just about that statement in my opinion how the panel is shown is trying to indicate that he is travelling lightspeed. IMO...ok?

Hulk must talk pretty fast then.

If he's able to complete a long sentence before the Sentry is able to cross a distance of 50 feet.

Originally posted by llagrok
Hulk must talk pretty fast then.

If he's able to complete a long sentence before the Sentry is able to cross a distance of 50 feet.

My god.......

Originally posted by Alfheim
Look if you dont think he was travelling at lightspeed then thats up to you. Its not just about that statement in my opinion how the panel is shown is trying to indicate that he is travelling lightspeed. IMO...ok?
Then don't claim that he is which you have and say that it is proof, don't use it as proof because it is not. He very well COULD be but it is not proof, this is why people get annoyed is because you claim that it is proof when it is not.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Then don't claim that he is which you have and say that it is proof, don't use it as proof because it is not. He very well COULD be but it is not proof, this is why people get annoyed is because you claim that it is proof when it is not.

Dont tell me about other people, theres no proof for this either.

Originally posted by iceman24567
This is the fastest The Sentry went in that fight and the Hulk got hit before he knew what was going on.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh009.jpg

Hell Vectors power has shown to warp reality and reflect magic but its speculation to say he affected the Hulk on a non-phyiscal level as well.

Not only that the same people wil use the same argument im using when they're ready.

Hell look at they were talking normally argument which i supposed to indicate that a person is not travlleing fast because they had time to talk...lol

Hell I even said in my opinion, but you wanna keep arguing about it.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Dont tell me about other people, theres no proof for this either.
Really????
Originally posted by Peek
So whats the debate thats going on here then because I know anybody with half a brain knows Flash wins.

Then again Alf is involved so anything is possible.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
First Pak and now Alf with horrorwolf.

Great!

Originally posted by Juntai
We can tell. Your whole arguement is an absurd wild goose chase.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Flash wins.

Easily.

And I'm seriously thinking of putting this alfheim guy on ignore. 😬

Just a few…

Originally posted by Alfheim

Hell Vectors power has shown to warp reality and reflect magic but its speculation to say he affected the Hulk on a non-phyiscal level.

Not only that the same people wil use the same argument im using when they're ready.

Hell look at they were talking normally argument which i supposed to indicate that a person is not travlleing fast because they had time to talk.

Hell I even said in my opinion, but you wanna keep arguing about it.

You didn’t give it as an opinion but as fact.

Hell this doesnt state what speed Superman is travlleing at but im pretty sure people on this forum when they want to talk about Supermans FTL speed have said...SUPERMAN HAS TAKEN DS TO THE SUN IN SECONDS!!!

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2815/darksiedbeaten25phie2.jpg

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Really???? Just a few…

Not that THIS??????? Didnt you even see it?

Originally posted by iceman24567
This is the fastest The Sentry went in that fight and the Hulk got hit before he knew what was going on.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh009.jpg

Hypocrisy! Theres no proof that either.

Originally posted by Da Pittman

You didn’t give it as an opinion but as fact.

Hell people always use the Superman flying DS to the sun argument, so as far as im concerned I can use the Sentry flying to the sun and back argument. 😐

Its obvious Sentry wasn't going anywhere close to full speed in the Hulk fight.

But then again he never does.

People should remember hes an unstable man that doesn't know how to handle that power and shouldn't really be able to handle moving at top speed. Maybe in his golden days yeah or before WWH he might be able to use full speed but obviously WWH wasn't at his best.

I don't why all that came out I just started rambling. 😐

Hell this doesnt show him going to the sun but if you think that took 59 mins be my guest common sense indicates that it was seconds.

http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledscanned127ke.jpg

Originally posted by Alfheim
Hell this doesnt state what speed Superman is travlleing at but im pretty sure people on this forum when they want to talk about Supermans FTL speed have said...SUPERMAN HAS TAKEN DS TO THE SUN IN SECONDS!!!

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2815/darksiedbeaten25phie2.jpg

The problem there is there are many scans that do show Superman flying at or beyond light speed and this one just as the one you posted doesn’t state time or distance.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
The problem there is there are many scans that do show Superman flying at or beyond light speed and this one just as the one you posted doesn’t state time or distance.

This argument was used prior to his upgarde, before that he has beeen shown struggling to get past the speed of light so you cant assume that he was doing it there.

Well not you but other posters have done it many a time.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Hell this doesnt show him going to the sun but if you think that took 59 mins be my guest common sense indicates that it was seconds.

http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledscanned127ke.jpg

This also doesn’t show him traveling to the sun or a time frame of how fast that he was going. If Sentry hit the Hulk at light speed in the city then the shock wave of his body mass passing through the atmosphere would have leveled the city not just go through buildings if you want to use common sense. The problem that you are having is trying to use something that is “common sense” as proof when common sense in comics is as false at it physics. Proof would be that you need time and distance or 3rd party narration saying that he is going a certain speed, Sentry doesn’t have this in your scans but there are multiple scans of Superman doing this.
Originally posted by Alfheim
This argument was used prior to his upgarde, before that he has beeen shown struggling to get past the speed of light so you cant assume that he was doing it there.

Well not you but other posters have done it many a time.

Still wouldn’t make it valid either, so why use something that hasn’t been proven or accepted as proof to back up your claim?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
If Sentry hit the Hulk at light speed in the city then the shock wave of his body mass passing through the atmosphere would have leveled the city not just go through buildings if you want to use common sense.

Its a comicbook!!!!! Good grief! Hell somebody even said he didnt create a sonic boom therefore he wasnt going that fast...good grief! No im not going to respond to the rest of your post.

Look this is basically hypocrisy im done here. Hell if you dont think that he was travelling at FTL speeds thats up to you but as far as im concerned the few numbers of scans indicates that he did. Hell you wanna get on my case about my arguments but I wish some people would stop being hypocrites and start looking at their nonsense.

1. Sentry could not have been flying that fast because he did not make a sonic boom.
2. Hulk had time to talk therefore Sentry wasnt going fast.
3. The fastest Sentry was travelling was when Hulk first got hit.
4. Marvel states that Sentrys speed is 5 therefore it is.

Anyway im done.