If you ruled the world wouldn't it be a better place?

Started by Dr. Zaius5 pages
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, I disagree with it...but I wouldn't want to take your possibility away to believe in it.

I would...

Why are we still entertaining the fantasy of communism as a desirable form of government at this point in history? Do we need more evidence that this system doesn't work? True believers always argue that it's never been truly implemented or that it's been hijacked by gangster-like opportunists, but the fact remains--it's always morphed into either a brutal military junta or a systematically repressive police state.

Is it really going to be different the next time it's tried?

Free markets and representative government are the only way.

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
I would...

Why are we still entertaining the fantasy of communism as a desirable form of government at this point in history? Do we need more evidence that this system doesn't work? True believers always argue that it's never been truly implemented or that it's been hijacked by gangster-like opportunists, but the fact remains--it's always morphed into either a brutal military junta or a systematically repressive police state.

Is it really going to be different the next time it's tried?

Free markets and representative government are the only way.

I am not, I am liberal though, I believe in freedom of speech..and even more important freedom of thought...

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
I would...

Why are we still entertaining the fantasy of communism as a desirable form of government at this point in history? Do we need more evidence that this system doesn't work? True believers always argue that it's never been truly implemented or that it's been hijacked by gangster-like opportunists, but the fact remains--it's always morphed into either a brutal military junta or a systematically repressive police state.

Slight bit of irony trapped between those paragraphs, I'd say.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Slight bit of irony trapped between those paragraphs, I'd say.

True, true...

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Slight bit of irony trapped between those paragraphs, I'd say.

LOL. Dr. Doom, I thought you would have agreed with my stance on communisim. What form of government do you employ over there in Latveria?

Don't get too excited. I certainly don't mean that I would ever favor preventing anyone, by force, from entertaining any political viewpoint they so choose. I was just expressing amazement that communism is still being thrown out as some kind of untried ideal we should consider implementing.

First and foremost I don't qualify to rule the world. The first thing I most likely do is wipe out a bunch of people I don't like. Second, I don't like having power over anyone. People will come to me for answers and asking for help. Most likely I wouldn't even get a second of sleep from people constanly wanting me to help them. Sure, is nice to help someone occasionally but to do it 24/7 is just too much for anyone...even for the ruler of the world.

Re: If you ruled the world wouldn't it be a better place?

Originally posted by Crease
Seriously, if you ruled the world. Meaning you either made or appointed people to make every decision or law you wished, wouldn't it be a better place? What major changes would you make? I got a ton of ideas, but I'd start with forcing people to apply with me to reproduce. Me and my team would test for a certain level of intelligence/genetic physical fitness/common sense at about 21. Anybody who fails would be made sterile. For those who follow comics it'd be a lot like Dr. Dooms Latveria, but worldwide. What about you?

First, I don't believe that man has perspective such that he could decide which traits are truly valuable to the human race. Second many traits that could have been selected out at some point because some people disliked them are traits that I really appreciate (I mean really, big breasts and small breasts are both wonderful in my opinion), so that idea is garbage. But then if all I care about is me, I would have to say that all men should be sterilized, and neutered.

I don't believe in big government. My overruling rule would be that government should make few if any laws, government should only govern if it needs to govern.

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
LOL. Dr. Doom, I thought you would have agreed with my stance on communisim. What form of government do you employ over there in Latveria?

Don't get too excited. I certainly don't mean that I would ever favor preventing anyone, by force, from entertaining any political viewpoint they so choose. I was just expressing amazement that communism is still being thrown out as some kind of untried ideal we should consider implementing.

That's reasonable- however, you phrased it badly originally.

No, everyone would die a horrible death under my ever seeing operation. Well I guess I'm never going to get the job. 😉

Truth be told, I wouldn't rule with an utter iron fist. I'd have a small team of advisers, 15 or so. Bill Maher, Dr. Cornell West and Salmon Rushkie would be among them (no need to seriously think out a fantasy situation). We'd initially allow the world's seperate governments to continue for the sake of not causing worldwide chaos. The first steps would be to slooooowly overturn obvious injustices and human rights violations (brutal dictatorships, mistreatment of women in various cultures, Haliburton, Carrot Top, etc). We'd then move to the issue of next importance and so on and so forth.

A good portion of people would initially hate me simply because the "masses" don't posses the mental acumen to see past the moment, but they'd eventually live in a virtual utopia. How ever many years it would take.

Originally posted by Crease
Truth be told, I wouldn't rule with an utter iron fist. I'd have a small team of advisers, 15 or so. Bill Maher, Dr. Cornell West and Salmon Rushkie would be among them (no need to seriously think out a fantasy situation). We'd initially allow the world's seperate governments to continue for the sake of not causing worldwide chaos. The first steps would be to slooooowly overturn obvious injustices and human rights violations (brutal dictatorships, mistreatment of women in various cultures, Haliburton, Carrot Top, etc). We'd then move to the issue of next importance and so on and so forth.

A good portion of people would initially hate me simply because the "masses" don't posses the mental acumen to see past the moment, but they'd eventually live in a virtual utopia. How ever many years it would take.

That is how I would start too. 😉

Re: If you ruled the world wouldn't it be a better place?

Originally posted by Crease
Seriously, if you ruled the world. Meaning you either made or appointed people to make every decision or law you wished, wouldn't it be a better place? What major changes would you make? I got a ton of ideas, but I'd start with forcing people to apply with me to reproduce. Me and my team would test for a certain level of intelligence/genetic physical fitness/common sense at about 21. Anybody who fails would be made sterile. For those who follow comics it'd be a lot like Dr. Dooms Latveria, but worldwide. What about you?
I would have many advisor's that were specialist in many aspects of the planet. Yet I would the final say.......Of course.................all would be considerer.......and there would be not prejudiced in beliefs.......It would be much different in what this planet has let happen with beliefs........it would revolve on treating others as you would like to be treated" along with the planet as a living substance that is important to us all and you back yard........Reproducing.........not sure about that......guess I'd have a committee on that.......

Re: Re: If you ruled the world wouldn't it be a better place?

Originally posted by debbiejo
I would have many advisor's that were specialist in many aspects of the planet. Yet I would the final say.......Of course.................all would be considerer.......and there would be not prejudiced in beliefs.......It would be much different in what this planet has let happen with beliefs........it would revolve on treating others as you would like to be treated" along with the planet as a living substance that is important to us all and you back yard........Reproducing.........not sure about that......guess I'd have a committee on that.......

This sounds like a world ripe for the plucking. Can Dr. Zaius be your prime minister? Oh, and can Dr. Zaius be on your committee on human reproduction? I have some great ideas about that....

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is how I would start too. 😉

But how would you implement those changes without brute force?

Originally posted by The Achiever
But how would you implement those changes without brute force?

As slowly as necessary. And I'm fully aware that no amount of time/care/explaining would get everyone on page with me. So yeah, eventually some amount of brute force would be necessary, as a last option.

The people of the world are used to seeing it's most powerful countries only use brute force to end conflict when European interests are at stake, with it's most powerful country as the enforcer. We've known for decades that certain cultures use women as human toilets but have refused to do anything about it. In Rawanda, the Hutsis and the Tu-Tus (may have misspelled the names) killed well over a million in tribal warfare. The most powerful military in the history of the world stood by and did nothing. Apartheid stood for decades after our own civil rights movement had succeeded (depending on whom you ask). But we did nothing. We've actually back the current violence in the Middle East, with our own president (purposely not spelled with a capital P) saying just a week ago that it was to soon for a cease-fire. How is it ever too soon to stop civilian deaths?

But when the Serbs and Albanians (Europeans) were into it a few years ago we rushed right in. Can't let Europeans kill each other, huh? When Iraq invaded tiny Kuwait on Aug 2, 1990 the U.S. rushed right into Kuwait to defend the tiny nation that couldn't itself against the neighborhood bully. Or at least that's how they tried to spin it. In reality, we've been "in bed" with oil-rich Saudi Arabia, Kuwait's neighbor, and couldn't let fighting spill in that direction.

Once the people of the world realize that I'd police the ENTIRE world regardless of whom is the aggressor and who stands to gain, they'd realize the good being done. Or at least most would...I think.

Re: If you ruled the world wouldn't it be a better place?

Originally posted by Crease
Seriously, if you ruled the world. Meaning you either made or appointed people to make every decision or law you wished, wouldn't it be a better place? What major changes would you make? I got a ton of ideas, but I'd start with forcing people to apply with me to reproduce. Me and my team would test for a certain level of intelligence/genetic physical fitness/common sense at about 21. Anybody who fails would be made sterile. For those who follow comics it'd be a lot like Dr. Dooms Latveria, but worldwide. What about you?
I'd rather run a country as a dictator than the enitre world. Less responsibility, less people to worry about, it'd be grand. Of course, it'd be a large country, like Brazil. Or Canada.

Every one wants the world to be a better place but when someone didnt like something it would be destroyed/killed making the world a bad place again. just because the world is brilliant in your eyes doesnt mean that everyone likes it.

Originally posted by The Achiever
But how would you implement those changes without brute force?

Did you miss this one?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, everyone would die a horrible death under my ever seeing operation. Well I guess I'm never going to get the job. 😉

It would depend on how capable of a leader you are, though I think most people could make the world a better place if they ruled it, simply because its a much more simple and efficient government then the mass chaos we have today.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
It would depend on how capable of a leader you are, though I think most people could make the world a better place if they ruled it, simply because its a much more simple and efficient government then the mass chaos we have today.

Great point.