Anti-terrorist police in UK foil imminent plan to blow up planes in mid-air

Started by David Tsarion8 pages

its a bit more than right wing I'm afraid

bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiisokDGbfA
kerry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6qPUkVWzKM

Yeah, skull and bones, Bush and Cheney, I am aware of that. Aside of them, I still think Democrats and Republicans are to far to the right.

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
Yeah, skull and bones, Bush and Cheney, I am aware of that. Aside of them, I still think Democrats and Republicans are to far to the right.

Because they aren't liberal enough or because they aren't socialist enough?

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
Yeah, skull and bones, Bush and Cheney, I am aware of that. Aside of them, I still think Democrats and Republicans are to far to the right.

there is no real difference between both parties because both are controlled by the same elite.. its just fake choices they want you to make in order to keep the illusion of democracy going..

what we need are some decent politicians, honest people with love for humanity and they shouldn't be members of some secret or semi-secret society imo.. i mean Skull&Bones is one thing but you also get the Masons and what heavier..

wheres tony blair when u need him

Im listening about this right now.

The suspects accounts have been frozen, and their names released.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4782343.stm

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Im listening about this right now.

The suspects accounts have been frozen, and their names released.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4782343.stm

I'm not sure if I find this good....no...actually I find it wrong...yeah...it's wrong.

Originally posted by David Tsarion
there is no real difference between both parties because both are controlled by the same elite.. its just fake choices they want you to make in order to keep the illusion of democracy going..

what we need are some decent politicians, honest people with love for humanity and they shouldn't be members of some secret or semi-secret society imo.. i mean Skull&Bones is one thing but you also get the Masons and what heavier..

I agree with that. I think the US needs another pres like Jimmy Carter. I think he was the last of the great men as Presidents. The guy's business was peanut farming, not oil. I think the US needs a President who's business is not that of oil in order for real change to ensue.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Because they aren't liberal enough or because they aren't socialist enough?

Simply because they both don't have a solid plan to get away from oil dempendancy. Gore spouts about global warming and this and that, which is okay, but no one, as far as I've seen, except for my college professors from the early 1990's, actually have a real system of living off the grid, surviving without oil, etc. I know I may sound like a hippy, but I think a lot of what is going on with terrorism is due to our dependancy on oil. It may be just a small part of it, there is the whole religion thing, but I guess I'm saying they aren't liberal enough in their attempts to explore life outside of fossil fuels.

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
Simply because they both don't have a solid plan to get away from oil dempendancy. Gore spouts about global warming and this and that, which is okay, but no one, as far as I've seen, except for my college professors from the early 1990's, actually have a real system of living off the grid, surviving without oil, etc. I know I may sound like a hippy, but I think a lot of what is going on with terrorism is due to our dependancy on oil. It may be just a small part of it, there is the whole religion thing, but I guess I'm saying they aren't liberal enough in their attempts to explore life outside of fossil fuels.

Yeah, i agree, but well that doesn't make them right wing, you know?

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
I agree with that. I think the US needs another pres like Jimmy Carter. I think he was the last of the great men as Presidents. The guy's business was peanut farming, not oil. I think the US needs a President who's business is not that of oil in order for real change to ensue.

agreed, carter, kennedy, lincoln, washington, america had quiet a few decent presidents, but sadly enough since bush senior the same gang is in power.. sponsored by multinational companies and riddled with members of secret and semi secret societies in both parties and congress.. ye even the high ups in the military the police force and judges are mostly members of fraternities and secret societies..

the system has to change but it wont do so unless the people rise up.. and i dont mean violently but peacefully and and thats the main factor united..

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, i agree, but well that doesn't make them right wing, you know?

Well, what do you mean?

Originally posted by David Tsarion
agreed, carter, kennedy, lincoln, washington, america had quiet a few decent presidents, but sadly enough since bush senior the same gang is in power.. sponsored by multinational companies and riddled with members of secret and semi secret societies in both parties and congress.. ye even the high ups in the military the police force and judges are mostly members of fraternities and secret societies..

the system has to change but it wont do so unless the people rise up.. and i dont mean violently but peacefully and and thats the main factor united..

And that is exactly why I feel Democrats and Rebuplicans, or I should say, the elected officials thereof, are all too Right Wing.

And I must say, people ARE rising up. There are many people who are working in peaceful ways to explore and make more accesible means to non-oil based modes of transportation, chemical free ways to produce simple much needed supplies such as ropes, cloth, building materials . . . I think people are rising and have been for decades, they just aren't the 'mainstream' for now. For now.

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
Well, what do you mean?

Well no solid plan to do away with oil is not rightwing.

You can't say they are too right because they don't do anything to survive without oil.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You can't say they are too right because they don't do anything to survive without oil.

But I just did.

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
But I just did.

Let me rephrase:

You can say they are too right because they don't do anything to survive without oil....but you would be WRONG

Originally posted by Bardock42
Let me rephrase:

You can say they are too right because they don't do anything to survive without oil....but you would be WRONG

And in a more blatant attempt . . . WHY???

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
And in a more blatant attempt . . . WHY???

Because Left is not a synonym for common sense and good ideas and right for ignorance and stupidity....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Because Left is not a synonym for common sense and good ideas and right for ignorance and stupidity....

No, what I mean is that Left means Right, as does Right means Right. Neither is a synonym for common sense and good ideas.

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
No, what I mean is that Left means Right, as does Right means Right. Neither is a synonym for common sense and good ideas.

Okay...so you don't think that both parties are too right wing...or do you believe that just for good reasons as well?