Where do you see the world in 5 years

Originally posted by David Tsarion
and those blocks will then merged under one authority.. simple as

dont belive me now, just remember my words in one or two years time..

The EU is crippled at times by inner conflict and often is seen to lack any cohesive direction. The US, Mexico and Canada are vastly different in terms of, well, everything, and there is no sign of any unifying feature upon the horizon.

If you truly believe the divided world is on the verge of being subsumed into a single super state I fear that you are giving a wee bit much credit to the shadow forces of your NWO. Forming such a thing would be very hard, even with the necessary state machinery in place - machinery which doesn't seem to exist yet. And it would be hard to try and doing it openly without trying to hide anything. To imagine some group operating behind the scenes and somehow achieving this without causing ripples of drawing attention to themselves is unlikely to say the least.

Imperal Samura

you're in for a big surprise in the coming years..

see, you people will wake up either the nice or the hard way..

Tell me why it would be so bad - and just saying "it will be evil and Orwellian" is not a real answer.

Originally posted by David Tsarion
propaganda ?? by whom ??

as for changes noone said the changes will be sudden, its a slow process and its going on for decades, now tell me cant you see the ever growing pace of globalization ?

first they put countries into blocks like the eu for example, remember it all started as an free trade agreement and now it transformed into a centralized dictatorship in wich bruessel dictates to the memberstates..
america will be fusioned with mexio and canada, you watch it.. they call it NAFTA (North American Free trade agreement)
same scam.. same stepping stone approach..
http://www.nafta-sec-alena.org/DefaultSite/index.html
official site !

and those blocks will then merged under one authority.. simple as

dont belive me now, just remember my words in one or two years time..

Why oh why are the conspiracy folks always "right" and in the "know." It's just magic, magic I tell you!

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, that may be true, I don't know for sure, but I guess there could be a lot of things going on we don't know....nevertheless...is it a conspiracy theory and, in case it actually happens, it is a conspiracy.

dude it already happends..

read this document: (written in 2000)
http://newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

and since i know you wont i'll give you the details (you are free to read it for yaself and see if i made this up)

the document calls for;

U.S. military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein is in power: 'While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.'

The U.S. to 'fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars' as a 'core mission'.
U.S. forces to be 'the cavalry on the new American frontier'.

Action to discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging U.S. leadership or aspiring to a larger regional or global role.

Permanent U.S. bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Increased military pressure on China: 'It is time to increase the presence of American forces in South East Asia' which will lead to 'American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratisation in China'.

The 'creation of "U.S. Space Forces", to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent "enemies" using the Internet against the U.S.'.

'New methods of attack - electronic, "non-lethal", biological. These, it says, will be more widely available and combat is likely to take place in new dimensions, in space, cyberspace, and perhaps the world of microbes ... advanced forms of biological warfare that can "target" specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.'

The development of a 'world-wide command-and-control system' to contain the 'dangerous' regimes of North Korea, Libya, Syria, and Iran.

also The document highlighted the need for a 'New Pearl Harbor' without which the 'process of transformation' was likely to be 'a long one'. 9/11 came one year to the month after this document was published and nine months after those behind it came to power with Bush. Since then it has been used to justify the imposition of their agenda.

Coincidence? Oh, please.

Okay...so it is actually a conspiracy...fair enough.

In five years,
I predict the NFL will go to 18 regular season games and reduce the number of preseason games to 2. I also predict that an ultra-zestier and Hellacious chicken wing sauce will be invented by myself. After those two things happen, the planets will finally be aligned.

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
Why are you so intent on us remembering what you say? Even if such things happen or are happening, do you think I'll be sitting there going, "Oh my goodness! David Tsarion was right!" Then I'll quote you . . . and you will be just as great as --Former Congressman John Rarick 1971-- in some conspiracy thread from the future?

fool, i couldn't give less a damn whether you think im great or whatever else.. but you remembering my words and then seeing it unfold with your very eyes will tell you quiet clearly that there is something to it..

i predict chaos!

Originally posted by Deano
i predict chaos!

ordo ab chao -order out of chaos- one of the age old Brotherhood doctrines

Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay...so it is actually a conspiracy...fair enough.

ok lets leave it there.. i still hope you will read through that site. maybe you do at some point..

deutschland is auch nicht besser btw.. wusstes du zum beispiel das Gerhard Schröder jetzt berater für Rotschilds Bank ist ?
http://www.faz.net/s/Rub5CAECB7768E046A3976500B4D416A560/Doc~E034DA40D93E64E4C9ABEEECEA12CE401~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

Originally posted by David Tsarion
deutschland is auch nicht besser btw.. wusstes du zum beispiel das Gerhard Schröder jetzt berater für Rotschilds Bank ist ?
http://www.faz.net/s/Rub5CAECB7768E046A3976500B4D416A560/Doc~E034DA40D93E64E4C9ABEEECEA12CE401~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

The dark, dark language of the NWO....

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
The dark, dark language of the NWO....

actually its german, ya know that big funny country next to france and austria. oh did you know that the frankfurter messetower has an pyramid with the all seeing eye on its top

it even glows at night.. 😄

tho of course thats just another coincidence nothing to worry bout.. lets put the head back into the sand, at least its warm there right ?

Originally posted by David Tsarion
ok lets leave it there.. i still hope you will read through that site. maybe you do at some point..

deutschland is auch nicht besser btw.. wusstes du zum beispiel das Gerhard Schröder jetzt berater für Rotschilds Bank ist ?
http://www.faz.net/s/Rub5CAECB7768E046A3976500B4D416A560/Doc~E034DA40D93E64E4C9ABEEECEA12CE401~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

Nah, didn't know that, but I'd trust Gerhard Schröder to sell his mothers soul for his own profit so...you know....the link doesn't work, btw.

Well, I'm not sure if I want to read it, it's a propaganda site, isn't it?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, didn't know that, but I'd trust Gerhard Schröder to sell his mothers soul for his own profit so...you know....the link doesn't work, btw.

Well, I'm not sure if I want to read it, it's a propaganda site, isn't it?

well like i said its a neo con think tank site with documents written by the current administration about plans they now trying to achive.. wouldnt say its propaganda..
http://newamericancentury.org/Rebui...casDefenses.pdf

as for schröder, heres a link that works
http://www.financialnews-us.com/?page=ushome&contentid=598932

und noch einer
http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2006-03/artikel-6184609.asp

Originally posted by David Tsarion
actually its german, ya know that big funny country next to france and austria. oh did you know that the frankfurter messetower has an pyramid with the all seeing eye on its top

it even glows at night.. 😄

tho of course thats just another coincidence nothing to worry bout.. lets put the head back into the sand, at least its warm there right ?

Clarifying statement: I was joking.

And I like that tower, vague symbolism or no. I wish Sydney would build some a bit more like that, maybe knock down those two cement toaster style towers they built 20 years ago. They have all the charm of Soviet construction, and none of the radiation shielding.

Or maybe we could just have some monumental building programs - I'd like to see more pyramids. Or at least some sun temples.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Clarifying statement: I was joking.

And I like that tower, vague symbolism or no. I wish Sydney would build some a bit more like that, maybe knock down those two cement toaster style towers they built 20 years ago. They have all the charm of Soviet construction, and none of the radiation shielding.

Or maybe we could just have some monumental building programs - I'd like to see more pyramids. Or at least some sun temples.

dunno bout australia but pyramids are all over the place and im not just talking egypt here.. there is a thread in the conspiracy section about the pyramid and the eye, it just started but there already quiet a few examples posted, so you may wanna check it out..

even if you dismiss it, at least you have seen it once.. cant do any harm thats f'sure..
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f70/t416662.html

- peace -

Hmm... in 5 years time the Burj Dubai should have been completed, making it the new world's tallest building.

I see myself being 5 years older. ✅

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
The EU is crippled at times by inner conflict and often is seen to lack any cohesive direction. The US, Mexico and Canada are vastly different in terms of, well, everything, and there is no sign of any unifying feature upon the horizon.

there is such a thing as the eu constitution ya know ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2950276.stm#powers
and minus the spin
http://www.eutruth.org.uk/

If you truly believe the divided world is on the verge of being subsumed into a single super state I fear that you are giving a wee bit much credit to the shadow forces of your NWO. [/B]

so the success they had with europe doesnt show you something ? and that they now use the same technique to lure america mexico and canada into a similar ''agreement''
but i agree at this point its still to early, what they need is another major crisis, and they will engineer one if needed like they did before.. ''ordo ab chao''.. create chaos to then introduce order -- your order--
see its their plan and they are serious about it..

Forming such a thing would be very hard, even with the necessary state machinery in place - machinery which doesn't seem to exist yet. [/B]

Un, Nato, WHO etc pp.. ye i see it doesnt exist 🙄

"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance."
--George Herbert Walker Bush President of U.S.: 1989 ~ 1993. CFR Director, Trilateralist, CIA Director, Skull and Bones Member Addressing the General Assembly of the UN. 1st February, 1992

"... what is at stake, is more than one small country. It is a big idea. A New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind: peace, and security, freedom, and the rule of law ... [The war in Iraq is] a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, ... our fifth objective, - a New World Order , can emerge: a new era, freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace ... Now we can see a new world coming into view, a world in which there is a very real prospect of a New World Order . ... We are now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders."
George Herbert Walker Bush Speaking before Congress on 11th September, 1991 [Televised]

And it would be hard to try and doing it openly without trying to hide anything. To imagine some group operating behind the scenes and somehow achieving this without causing ripples of drawing attention to themselves is unlikely to say the least.[/B]

dude what do they hide ? nothing absolutely nothing, try reading their publications, listen to their statements etc..
its all in plain view.. just because you or the LAMEstream media doesnt pay attention doesnt mean it isnt happening.
actually the lamestream media does report on it, but they put their spin on it and call it a good thing.. like they say implanting a microchip is good for you. makes you find your children easely you see.(one of their arguments)
plz open your eyes and look how far down the road we already are..

Tell me why it would be so bad - and just saying "it will be evil and Orwellian" is not a real answer. [/B]

well its bad because it will be ruled by people who couldn't care less about you and me.. as their actions, words and history clearly shows.. on top of that you wont be able to buy anything without the chip wich means absolute dependency on the system - ie a computer
trust me once it manifests istelf fully into reality you will understand what i meant..

tell you what, if you watch this and come back to me and say its all hot air, well then fair enough..
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661&q=alex+jones+martial+law
but watch it all !! from beginning to end, even if your mind tells you to quit watching..
i wont lie its 2 hours long so perhaps on the weekend ?
you could watch it with a buddy and tell him you met this crazy conspiracy nutter on a website and he said you shall watch this.. i mean you cant loose can you ? and at least you will understand where people like me are coming from..

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
I see more Star bucks Coffee blends, a bigger Mac, and cars fueled by vegetable oil.

TH I completely agree...more business and people buying stuff. That's how things will be for years to come.