This is an interesting fight...i'd like to say Thanos..but, i don't really know if he can win with the IG....i know Thanos could win with the HOTU..no question about that....but, i don't know if the IG is enough. Anti-Monitor is a multiveral threat...and Thanos with the IG is only a universal threat. The only being that really operates on a mulitversal scale in Marvel is the LT...and the Tribunal is above the IG.
I'm gonna have to think about this one some more....for now, I still give A-M the edge
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
The only being that really operates on a mulitversal scale in Marvel is the LT...and the Tribunal is above the IG.
Several characters operate on a Mulitversal scale in Marvel.
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
i don't really know if he can win with the IG.... Anti-Monitor is a multiveral threat...and Thanos with the IG is only a universal threat.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
For now I have to go with anti monitor. If you think about it, he pulled out one bad ass feat.
He destroyed a near infinite amount of universes filled with ridiculously overpowered pre-crisis characters.
Abraxas kills the Galactus of many Universes
Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.
Abraxas killing every Reed Richards in the Multi-verse, with a gesture.
Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.
Finally what does this lead to?
Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was.
What was MISALIGNED? The MULTI-VERSE!
How was this done?
Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & remake the Multiverse
UN remakes the Multiverse in an instant
As you can see, the Ultimate Nullifier can Remake the Multi-verse on a whim
Let's not doubt the Ultimate Nullifier can do this.
Now observe what an INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet can do to the Ultimate Nullifier.
Next post it continues...
continues...
Here Quasar tries to use the UN on Magus who has an Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet...
Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone
Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.
Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them.
Absolute control..
Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.
Another example of the IG power.
Magus with 5 Cosmic Containment Units creates a Duplicate 616 Universe...
Now imagine 30 Cosmic Containment Units...the Goddess had that many...30.
Here the Goddess merges 30 Cosmic Containment Units...which equal to even greater power as a sum than individually(as when Magus used his 5)
Here Silver Surfer and the Goddess acknowledge that the Infinity Gauntlet is a "Far More Potent Force" than even 30 Cosmic Containment Units(un-evolved Cosmic Cubes)and remember it only took 5 to create an exact Duplicate of the 616 Universe...from scratch.
It all leads to this:
Thanos, master of ALL Universes, with the Infinity Gauntlet.
yeah, I forgot about Abraxas. There is no doubt about the UN or the IG's power....but, would that be able to work against the Anti_Monitor? Even the Spectre couldn't stop him alone. A-M can transcend time...he could go back in time and kill Thanos before he got IG..if the IG could indeed kill him. Then again, that may not work....Thanos has control over time and space..and could prevent timetravel altoghter...that is if Thanos is omniscient..and would sense what A-M was doing.
lol...this is a good fight. At the very least...this is a stalemate. I can argue for both sides...but, i'm just not sure what kind of effect the IG would have on Anti-Monitor
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Thanos can't really be master of all universes with the IG, when there are things over that in power...such as the LT, TOAA, Phoenix Force, HOTU, pre-retconned Brothers. Thanos with the IG is certainly badass though.
Phoenix Force is nowhere near the power of the IG.
LT is above the IG and so is TOAA.
HOTU is the TOAA's power.
Pre-retcon Brothers was a Marvel/DC crossover (garbage) and it doesn't count since you'l NEVER see them again.
Only LT and the never present "one above all", and it's power (THOU), showed to be above the IG.
So master of all universes it is.
Originally posted by Mr Masteri was waiting for your response to this.
Phoenix Force is nowhere near the power of the IG.LT is above the IG and so is TOAA.
HOTU is the TOAA's power.
Pre-retcon Brothers was a Marvel/DC crossover (garbage) and it doesn't count since you'l NEVER see them again.
Only LT and the never present "one above all", and it's power (THOU), showed to be above the IG.
So master of all universes it is.
One thing I like about Mr. M is the pwnage he lays down on those who claim Phoenix is above IG/HOTU, or that Phoenix has ever had a feat that was trully beyond universal in power, or even more so that Phoenix is the direct extension of TOAA and thus is omnipotent... yeah right what a joke.
Go GO Go Mr. M!
Originally posted by Jesse7
One thing I like about Mr. M is the pwnage he lays down on those who claim Phoenix is above IG/HOTU, or that Phoenix has ever had a feat that was trully beyond universal in power, or even more so that Phoenix is the direct extension of TOAA and thus is omnipotent... yeah right what a joke.Go GO Go Mr. M!
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Originally posted by Jesse7yup.
One thing I like about Mr. M is the pwnage he lays down on those who claim Phoenix is above IG/HOTU, or that Phoenix has ever had a feat that was trully beyond universal in power, or even more so that Phoenix is the direct extension of TOAA and thus is omnipotent... yeah right what a joke.Go GO Go Mr. M!
Then on the DC side...you have the Presence, the Source, Great Evil Beast, Lucifer, Michael, maybe Spectre and Anti-Monitor that are above the IG....and the ALE would stalemate it....so, there are several beings in both universes above the IG or atleast equal to it. You can't really say that the Phoenix Force is not above the IG either...it very well could be....maybe not while the PF is in a host body...but the PF itself. The IG has never been tested against the PF...so, you can't know for sure...or atleast to my knowledge, it was never tested against it.
