Originally posted by ESB Vader
what lightsaber form does vader use? does he still use the shien form or that other 1.
He uses a variant of Djem So.
o ya and what is NJO lukes 20 lightsaber form called
There's no such thing as a "20 lightsaber form", lol. He also uses a variant of Djem So - as it'd be seemingly impossible to be a straight forward Djem So user when there's no master to teach you, nonetheless, like I said - it's a variant. And during the NJO, it's described as "looking as if he were wielding twenty lightsabers".
Originally posted by Advent
He uses a variant of Djem So.There's no such thing as a "20 lightsaber form", lol. He also uses a variant of Djem So - as it'd be seemingly impossible to be a straight forward Djem So user when there's no master to teach you, nonetheless, like I said - it's a variant. And during the NJO, it's described as "[b]looking
as if he were wielding twenty lightsabers". [/B]
wait what do u mean? he uses the same style as vader?
also is this djem so the shien form?
Originally posted by Sith'ari
Hey Advent, how comes you're not laying down some mega pwnage at EOD?
Because there's already enough people to do that? Lol.
I don't know. I was invited to join by Janus like 4 months ago, haha, and only posted a few times since April. But I'm surely going to start soon.
Originally posted by ESB Vader
wait what do u mean? he uses the same style as vader?
also is this djem so the shien form?
No. Vader's variant of Djem So is using one hand, and some other skills. Luke's is a variant of Djem So, too, but not the same as Vader. They use the same core form, but not the actual same variant of the form. Make sense?
And Djem So is Shien, yeah.
I agree with the poster who said who on earth likes anakin better than vader.
I mean, Vaders a screen legend. He's like the Marlon Brando of Star Wars, and Anakins just an arrogant and dislikable teenager.
If we consider some of the EU material starring Vader, we can't think of his ability post RotS as weak, even with the clunky suit. Apart from hunting Jedi in the intervening years between RotS and ANH, he also manages to kill a clone of Darth Maul, matching his acrobatics to e to toe on a volcanic planet similar to Mustafar.
well ESB vader has some abilities making him strong but the reason hes weak is because of his metal legs and arms, he cant do normal sith lightning because it will electricute(sry im bad at spelling >< pls bear with it)his life support system and cause him to die. sigh what a fool when he was anakin.
well if he hand his left arm organic not cut off then he can do lightning and become stronger than when hes with his stupid cyborg hands.
not completely the suit which slows him, its his legs and hands, he cant force jump cuz he cant focus his power on his artifiicial legs.
well vader is the first sith we see in SW, i bet the creators of revan got their ideas from vader
wait i did read a source where it says vader does lightning differently than all the other sith, instead of projecting it from his hands, he makes it appear around his victim.
well considering vader has knowledge i believe he did that because i was reading it from a source. tho it was from wikipedia it does take most of the info from canon sources
ROTS Anakin, after defeating Count Dooku, is basically the third strongest Jedi, after Yoda and Mace Windu. (His downfall to Kenobi was due to his arrogance)
George Lucas claims that due to his injuries on Mustafar and the donning of the suit, Darth Vader only grew to be 80% of Sidious's level. So to find a correct comparision of how good Vader is we have to find what Jedi is 80% of Sidious.
Personally, I believe Count Dooku is around this level. Dooku is strong but Sidious didn't teach him to be powerful enough. So using this example, we can say that ESB Darth Vader is about equal to Count Dooku.
However, Anakin is better than Dooku since he defeated him. Therefore, it will be an even more closer duel since Anakin is barely better than Dooku, and according to my theory, Vader is about equvilant to Darth Tyrannus.
Therefore, Anakin should win due to his speed and skill, however Vader makes good use of the Force while Anakin is just Mr. Lightsaber man.
P.S: Had Anakin survived Mustafar without his injuries, GL says that he would have been twice as strong as Sidious.
Even if that was right, Vader would know all about Anakin, seeing as how he was him. He would know exactly what to expect in a saber duel, and utilize his form against him. Also, if Vader thought it would be risky in a saber fight, he would just toss him around using the force, which is probably the smarter choice.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Even if that was right, Vader would know all about Anakin, seeing as how he was him. He would know exactly what to expect in a saber duel, and utilize his form against him. Also, if Vader thought it would be risky in a saber fight, he would just toss him around using the force, which is probably the smarter choice.
This is true, when he is being beaten by a faster more agile saber dueler, Vader resorts to the Force to just pwn them.