The Omega effect can do what ever darksied wants them to do to his intended target. Erase, remove, de-age, age, smash, move, restructor. what ever he can dream up. He would have no problem witht he runner,even tho the runner is very powerful, he isnt' the brightest cookie around for an elder, and adam warlock at best would last one panel against darkseid. Surfer would be the challenge, and he would be put down after a nice 2 page fight.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and adam warlock at best would last one panel against darkseid. Surfer would be the challenge, and he would be put down after a nice 2 page fight.
When written to his full potential, I would say that Warlock is a way bigger threat than Surfer. The Soul Gem technically gives Warlock power over ALL souls, that means if Darkseid has a soul(no matter how dark and/or powerful), Warlock at least has a shot at taking him down. Now I don't think he could beat Darkseid on his own, but when you throw in the power of the Surfer and Runner, I think they take the majority.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Omega effect can do what ever darksied wants them to do to his intended target. Erase, remove, de-age, age, smash, move, restructor. what ever he can dream up. He would have no problem witht he runner,even tho the runner is very powerful, he isnt' the brightest cookie around for an elder, and adam warlock at best would last one panel against darkseid. Surfer would be the challenge, and he would be put down after a nice 2 page fight.
Runner isnt the brightest cookie? He is billions of years old. He runs free. Its not in his character to act like a know it all like the other elders.
That doesnt mean he isnt smart. 🙄
Darkseid has been put down by far less. He goes down.
Originally posted by InhumanFar less? You mean Superman, who's pretty much immune to his powers?
Runner isnt the brightest cookie? He is billions of years old. He runs free. Its not in his character to act like a know it all like the other elders.
That doesnt mean he isnt smart. 🙄
Darkseid has been put down by far less. He goes down.
Other than that, Darkseid hasn't been defeated.
Originally posted by Jesse7
If you think the Runner can defeat DS...then you are very mistaken...
Did I ever say that? The debate here is runner,surfer & warlock vs. DS.
These 3 guys can take him out. If they fight smart they take him no prob.
I know its blahsphemy for anyone below the presence to take out DC's bad boy to some fanboys, but these 3 can do it.
Originally posted by leonheartmmDepends on what he's using it for, and Superman is nigh immune to it, and that has been pointed out on panel. Even commented on by Darkseid. Superman surviving it doesn't help the case at all. Especially when skyfather beings who have no such specifically mentioned immunities to it, fell victim to its effects.
ugh surfer fanboys saying runner will lose and surfer would last for a long time. drivin me nuts. the omega affect has limits. superman has survived it enough times for that to be apparent. not to mention doomsday didnt even get scratched by it.
And Doomsday DIED when he was hit with it, but came back to life a bit later.
"So it is true.. you ARE beyond death."
Originally posted by leonheartmm
ugh surfer fanboys saying runner will lose and surfer would last for a long time. drivin me nuts. the omega affect has limits. superman has survived it enough times for that to be apparent. not to mention doomsday didnt even get scratched by it.
Actually Supers is immune to being killed by it. He can be hurt very badly or removed from darksied's immediate galaxy. That is why WW blocked it. Supers was already injured. But I can't think of anyone else who can stand up to the Omega effect but Supers and Orion. Orion can stand up to it becuz he has the astro force and is the omega force's heir, while supers is partially protected by the source.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually Supers is immune to being killed by it. He can be hurt very badly or removed from Darksied's immediate galaxy. That is why WW blocked it. Supers was already injured. But I can't think of anyone else who can stand up to the Omega effect but Supers and Orion. Orion can stand up to it becuz he has the astro force and is the omega force's heir, while supers is partially protected by the source.
Yes, but the Runner is an Elder of the Universe, Now I was under the impression that couln't be killed by anything because Death refused to accept Elders into her realm, so while Darkseid might be able to do the same kinds of things that he does to Supes with the Omega affect, he shouldn't be able to use it for an instant kill should he? I'm not trying to pretend to be an expert on Darkseid, so correct me if I'm wrong.
Originally posted by darthgooberHe can still send him to oblivion with it, seal him out of the dimension with it, devolve him like Thanos with the gem...or any number of a billion uses it has.
Yes, but the Runner is an Elder of the Universe, Now I was under the impression that couln't be killed by anything because Death refused to accept Elders into her realm, so while Darkseid might be able to do the same kinds of things that he does to Supes with the Omega affect, he shouldn't be able to use it for an instant kill should he? I'm not trying to pretend to be an expert on Darkseid, so correct me if I'm wrong.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes, but the Runner is an Elder of the Universe, Now I was under the impression that couln't be killed by anything because Death refused to accept Elders into her realm, so while Darkseid might be able to do the same kinds of things that he does to Supes with the Omega affect, he shouldn't be able to use it for an instant kill should he? I'm not trying to pretend to be an expert on Darkseid, so correct me if I'm wrong.
IF they are in DC's universe, Death, doesn't have that deal with tcertain characters, as Heaven and Hell both have to deny someone in order for them to be immortal. In that case he gets killed. If they are in marvel, then darksied, is going to figure out the runners gimmick and do the same thing to him that thanos did. only he doesn't need the time gem. his omega effect can do it all on his own.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlbut he isnt just fighting runner.
IF they are in DC's universe, Death, doesn't have that deal with tcertain characters, as Heaven and Hell both have to deny someone in order for them to be immortal. In that case he gets killed. If they are in marvel, then darksied, is going to figure out the runners gimmick and do the same thing to him that thanos did. only he doesn't need the time gem. his omega effect can do it all on his own.
Originally posted by bigbran
but he isnt just fighting runner.
But it's not like Darksied is some weak cookie that can't last against attacks from all three. Darksied as shown in precrisis, and presumably the same since infinite crisis happened and every thing in dc for the last 20 years is subject to tampering, would be able to beat each one easily. Wich means none of them is dishing out enough dmg to really bother him. while he picks them off one by one. Ten to one the surfer would have to race for infinity to stay ahead of the omega effect once it locks on him. Darksied can simply pummel warlock and deage the runner.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSo, he can basically fire multiple ob's at the same time?
But it's not like Darksied is some weak cookie that can't last against attacks from all three. Darksied as shown in precrisis, and presumably the same since infinite crisis happened and every thing in dc for the last 20 years is subject to tampering, would be able to beat each one easily. Wich means none of them is dishing out enough dmg to really bother him. while he picks them off one by one. Ten to one the surfer would have to race for infinity to stay ahead of the omega effect once it locks on him. Darksied can simply pummel warlock and deage the runner.