Darkseid vs Silver Surfer,Runner & Adam Warlock

Originally posted by Inhuman
Anytime Darkseid is put up vs. anyone its the same damn thing :
He can erase them cause they are not essential or not protected by the pressence blah blah. 🙄
What a one dimentional character. No one mentions , hes good at h2h, or very strong, or smart, durable ect.
Its like the guy is a statue just shooting eye beems at everyone.
Its almost as bad as batgod wins if he has any prep, wolverine, supes win because they are popular.
With that logic, then Reed Richards > anyone marvel or DC
whatever hero is put up against reed, if it be tyrant, ion, superman prime, spectre, Living tribunal - it doesnt matter. My one and only responce to any well thought out argument would be:
"He can erase them with the Ultimate Nulifier" Nuff said. doesnt matter what logic you threw at me thats final, "they get destoyed by the UN"

Wow @ Silver Surfer manipulating OE. Galactus couldn't even manipulate the OE...................

Originally posted by B dot Rob
Wow @ Silver Surfer manipulating OE. Galactus couldn't even manipulate the OE...................

Even in that crossover..not even Big G could KO Darkseid

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Even in that crossover..not even Big G could KO Darkseid

Even in the crossover though, Silver Surfer was depicted as being well beneath Darkseid....with Galactus and Darkseid supposed to be the main event.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Even in the crossover though, Silver Surfer was depicted as being well beneath Darkseid....with Galactus and Darkseid supposed to be the main event.

Originally posted by B dot Rob
The only one that could do anything to him is Warlock via Soul Absorbtion but I doubt that it wouldn't do anything but annoy him for a few days until he escapes.

Wait, now you said before that the team could win if Warlock had prep, so even if Darkseid was only put out of commission for a few days, that gives Warlock prep time. More than enough prep time since when he absorbs a soul, gains access to the victims thoughts and memories. He would know how to beat Darkseid, because Darkseid knows. Besides he wouldn't have to because putting Darkseid down even for a couple of days wins this fight. So even if he does manage to escape from the gem and kick all of their asses that's a different fight, and they still won the initial battle.

Also, does the Runner have the Time Gem for the purposes of this fight because that could make a HUGE difference?

Are really brining up Crossovers. Superman has withstood the OE Silver Surfer could to.

Well of course

surfer is NUTHING compared to the runner or adam warlock with the could gem. get that in your head fanboys!

Originally posted by darthgoober
Also, does the Runner have the Time Gem for the purposes of this fight because that could make a HUGE difference?

runners gem was the reality gem and that would be overkill.

Originally posted by golem370
Well of course

Well if he does have the Time Gem, that takes any chance of Darkseid be able to mess with his age. The gem is the only reason Thanos was able to do it. I don't know if he's ever been shown to do it(if anybody else does, your imput would be appreciated), but he could also theoretically freeze Darkseid in time, and they could work him over at their leisure.

So, basically...all three of these Marvel characters have to have gems or be stronger than normal to defeat Darkseid? That tells you that Darkseid is more powerful then. Ask yourself this though. Could all three of these characters combined defeat Odin or Rune King Thor? If not, then they won't be able to defeat Darkseid either.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
So, basically...all three of these Marvel characters have to have gems or be stronger than normal to defeat Darkseid? That tells you that Darkseid is more powerful then. Ask yourself this though. Could all three of these characters combined defeat Odin or Rune King Thor? If not, then they won't be able to defeat Darkseid either.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
So, basically...all three of these Marvel characters have to have gems or be stronger than normal to defeat Darkseid? That tells you that Darkseid is more powerful then. Ask yourself this though. Could all three of these characters combined defeat Odin or Rune King Thor? If not, then they won't be able to defeat Darkseid either.

These guys dont need the gems to defeat Darkseid.
And dont compare DS to RKT or odin for that matter. All he has going for him vs. those guys is the cheap OE. Current DS is not above skyfather.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
So, basically...all three of these Marvel characters have to have gems or be stronger than normal to defeat Darkseid? That tells you that Darkseid is more powerful then. Ask yourself this though. Could all three of these characters combined defeat Odin or Rune King Thor? If not, then they won't be able to defeat Darkseid either.

What? It's the extras that make this a fight. Who cares if he's better than their lowest levels, everyone knows THAT wouldn't be a fight. By your reasoning Rune King Thor is a weaker character than the Surfer because thats not how Thor was introduced, that level of power is something that he got later on. For that matter, standard Thor is a weaker character than Hulk, because the abilities granted to him by his hammer aren't his own.

Inhuman...read those feats that I listed of Darkseid....those other characters can't compete with that...even with the gems. Darkseid, written as he should be, is close to Galactus' power. The OE is only weak because of who is writing it. The OE has been shown to hurt Spectre and Anti-Monitor....if it can hurt them...it would destroy the three marvel characters here. Darkseid has vast strength...stronger than all three combatants here. Darkseid has many many avatars....who is to say that Darkseid couldn't sit and watch while this Marvel team battles the avatars....and Darkseid stand up and blast them all to kingdom come. I think it was Mordru or some uber powerful entity that said Darkseid was invincible. This Marvel team is powerful...but, they aren't on the same level as Darkseid.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Inhuman...read those feats that I listed of Darkseid....those other characters can't compete with that...even with the gems. Darkseid, written as he should be, is close to Galactus' power.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Inhuman...read those feats that I listed of Darkseid....those other characters can't compete with that...even with the gems. Darkseid, written as he should be, is close to Galactus' power. The OE is only weak because of who is writing it. The OE has been shown to hurt Spectre and Anti-Monitor....if it can hurt them...it would destroy the three marvel characters here. Darkseid has vast strength...stronger than all three combatants here. Darkseid has many many avatars....who is to say that Darkseid couldn't sit and watch while this Marvel team battles the avatars....and Darkseid stand up and blast them all to kingdom come. I think it was Mordru or some uber powerful entity that said Darkseid was invincible. This Marvel team is powerful...but, they aren't on the same level as Darkseid.

I think you missed my post at the bottom of page 3. Its about a paragraph long. That post still stands.