thanos /w/ HOTU v.s. (MULTI) eternity

Started by rotiart15 pages

Ell it does fit into te idea that the rules only apply in our universe

for example the sphinx having two ra stones is impossible but being outside the universe and it's rules made it possible. So basically noone can be brought back to life.....

But if you go to "knowhere" then you can!!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You haven't posted a single statement where Thanos was "needed." Which means it wasn't so "clearly in the story." Frankly, you're simply projecting a theory onto the story in contravention of the clear plot.

I choose to accept his statements when he is stewing over the fact he was tricked because that is literally the revelation and turning point of the story.

I have as warlock already stated you and you alone have to do this. Thanos also didn't have to do anything. He chose to. You ignore what statements you don't like and accept which ones you do making you biased.

^ As Juntai explained, you took Warlock's statement out of context. Thanos was the only one who could accomplish the destruction/recreation of the universe, and he alone could do it, because (guess what?) he was the only one who had THOTU's power.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ As Juntai explained, you took Warlock's statement out of context. Thanos was the only one who could accomplish the destruction/recreation of the universe, and he alone could do it, because (guess what?) [b]he was the only one who had THOTU's power. [/B]
Because he was chosen for the job because of his life's work. Unless you think anyone could master supreme power.

^ What like Magus? Or Warlock? True, nobody quite does it like Thanos... what with his subconscious unworthiness and all that acutely prevents him from ever retaining ultimate power. kinda

In any case, chosen =/= necessary. And we can agree to disagree on that.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ What like Magus? Or Warlock? True, nobody quite does it like Thanos... what with his subconscious unworthiness and all that acutely prevents him from ever retaining ultimate power. kinda

In any case, chosen =/= necessary. And we can agree to disagree on that.

Magus? where was he? Warlock maybe. So I guess one alternate evil version and one other character are the only other names you can speculate as to whether or not they could do it as well.

He overcame his subconscious betrayals in this arc.

^ Which proves he wasn't unique concerning ultimate power. Which was your whole point. 😂

Oh yeah. Clearly proved himself capable of retaining ultimate power... by giving it up. 👆

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Which proves he wasn't unique concerning ultimate power. Which was your whole point. 😂

Oh yeah. Clearly proved himself capable of retaining ultimate power... by giving it up. 👆

All we have is speculation. I said maybe but what we have on my side is the comic and the fact Thanos did so. Saying maybe this guy and maybe that guy isn't the same as proving it. Proof is something you avoid. You just like to speculate.

^ Magus and Warlock have acclimated to ultimate power. There's no speculation on whether Thanos is alone in this regard. Projecting your wishful fantasy on Marvel: The End and acting like the supreme being could never have done this without Thanos, when it was THOTU's own power that accomplished the feat is attenuated at best, swiftly dismissable at worst. You can continue to think Thanos was the one key element here by virtue of him being the main character, twisting statements and ignoring context, but you'd be pretty isolated in that regard. But that's your choice. As it is my choice (among many other posters) to disagree with you.

So uh... Thanos wins easily?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Magus and Warlock have acclimated to ultimate power. There's no speculation on whether Thanos is alone in this regard. Projecting your wishful fantasy on Marvel: The End and acting like the supreme being could never have done this without Thanos, when it was THOTU's own power that accomplished the feat is attenuated at best, swiftly dismissable at worst. You can continue to think Thanos was the one key element here by virtue of him being the main character, twisting statements and ignoring context, but you'd be pretty isolated in that regard. But that's your choice. As it is my choice (among many other posters) to disagree with you.
Magus didn't exist anymore so why bring up someone who doesn't have a physical body at the time of the story?

We have the comment from warlock himself stating you and you alone. Laughs.

^ Who else but Thanos had THOTU's power at that point? kinda

Acclimated to ultimate power. Like the ig and subconsciously ripping his good and evil parts from himself?

Having megalomania such that history shows he becomes the Afro magus even before the ig incident.

Such that the entire cosmic hierarchy questioned warlocks sanity while he held the ig?

.... In that respect quanchii acually brings up a good point that just about noone other than thanos has ever held onto godlike power qithou losing it...

Red skull and the cosmic cube
molecule man
scarlet witch
Jamie Braddock
most mortals that attain godlike power go insane with it
thanos is the only person in the history of marvel that probably didn't o out of character after his possessions

^ Yet Thanos does lose ultimate power. Over and over again. Adam's control over the Infinity Gems surpassed Magus', who in turn acclimated more quickly than Thanos to their power. This was Warlock's second go at it and it was Magus' first.

So how is Thanos any better than any of the above examples when all is said and done? Especially since Magus didn't go insane.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Yet Thanos does lose ultimate power. Over and over again. Adam's control over the Infinity Gems surpassed Magus', who in turn acclimated more quickly than Thanos to their power. This was Warlock's second go at it and it was Magus' first.

So how is Thanos any better than any of the above examples when all is said and done? Especially since Magus didn't go insane.

Well they were all kind of insane to start with...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ As Juntai explained, you took Warlock's statement out of context. Thanos was the only one who could accomplish the destruction/recreation of the universe, and he alone could do it, because (guess what?) [b]he was the only one who had THOTU's power. [/B]
http://s201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/?action=view&current=TheEnd06-16_Tato-1.jpg

"Thanos, the role you play can have no understudy. What must be done now, only you can accomplish."

e.g;
"No one can help you bro. You're the only one wielding the power necessary."

^ 👆

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Well they were all kind of insane to start with...
... true. crackers

EDIT: Hopefully you can see now I was speaking to you.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... true. crackers
to me or him?

Thanos was taught a humbling humiliating lesson for all his delusions of ultimate power. He was a pawn and nothing more. And knew it, and he hated it, and then came to acceptance.

It's not necessary to treat it as more than it is, because it's a great -character- moment for him beyond all else.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Who else but Thanos had THOTU's power at that point? kinda
Thanos was chosen for this insanely important feat. When all of reality is up in the air Thanos was the best fit.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Yet Thanos does lose ultimate power. Over and over again. Adam's control over the Infinity Gems surpassed Magus', who in turn acclimated more quickly than Thanos to their power. This was Warlock's second go at it and it was Magus' first.

So how is Thanos any better than any of the above examples when all is said and done? Especially since Magus didn't go insane.

Warlock gave it up willingly. Thanos overcame these obstacles. Whether or not he got used to the power faster or not Magus wasn't even a physical being at that point so I hardly see the relevance of bringing him up.