Originally posted by Mr Master
So he erased the Multi-verse.Impressive feat, more powerful than Beyonder?
nup
That's the best you can come up with. Becuz at first, the arguments where that mxy was part of the multi verse and there for wasn't as powerful as the beyonder becuz the beyonder was outside of the marvel multiverse. so now that it is shown that mxy actually erased the multi-verse, now it's just a smiley face with a finger waving? OMG. No wonder I stopped being a marvel zombie. Freedom of thought. it's a wonderful thing.
Actually they destroyed the pre-Crisis multiverse and the Post-Crisis Universe of DC Comics, as well as the Elseworlds of Kingdom Come, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, and the DC Animated Universe and in the end they put it back together without any effort at all and were joking around the whole time.
Originally posted by Mordum
Actually they destroyed the pre-Crisis multiverse and the Post-Crisis Universe of DC Comics, as well as the Elseworlds of Kingdom Come, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, and the DC Animated Universe and in the end they put it back together without any effort at all and were joking around the whole time.
That's my point, these marvel zombies act like the beyonder has done something that the 5th dimension imps can't. It just isn't so.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSo, basically the imps can do this? All you gave us is your word, that the imps can do this. While we have given scans, explanations, etc.
I"m back, about to go to work. I have seen nothing that the beyonder supposedly did that an imp cannot. Period. Every time I mention something the mxy or someone with mxy's powers have done, you guys says, oh that was an else worlds tale, or the spectre punked him. But in Actuality, the beyonder's entire time was an else worlds tale as well. The Abstract beings never really feared him as well. But if we go on feats that have happened in any comic book featuring either the beyonder or mxy, mxy has been show to play with the entire dc multi-verse, destroy it, and put it back together for fun as if nothing even happened.
Originally posted by bigbran
So, basically the imps can do this? All you gave us is your word, that the imps can do this. While we have given scans, explanations, etc.
But word beats proof!
I was saying it all night. then someone actually got the scans I needed to back it up. I don't have scans or the time to even do scans. But thankfully, someone put the scans up that backed up my words. I don't have to lie about a debate. I knew that mxy was beyond any multi-verse. I have said all along that the beyonder has done nothing that mxy is not himself capable of.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlBeyonder was beyond anything in the multiverse, he could have destroyed it at anytime, but that wouldn't make a good story, because there would be no explanation for why it would be brought back.
I was saying it all night. then someone actually got the scans I needed to back it up. I don't have scans or the time to even do scans. But thankfully, someone put the scans up that backed up my words. I don't have to lie about a debate. I knew that mxy was beyond any multi-verse. I have said all along that the beyonder has done nothing that mxy is not himself capable of.
Originally posted by bigbran
Beyonder was beyond anything in the multiverse, he could have destroyed it at anytime, but that wouldn't make a good story, because there would be no explanation for why it would be brought back.
Even at a weak form he was still more powerful than a room full of abstracts. While myx was weaker than a weak spectre.
Beyonder was what his name implied, he was beyond anything and everything.
What about containing a blast that would have destroyed the microverse, what about lifting a hand and destroying 3 massive planets, What about wiping someone off from the multiverse, what about erasing 30 000 civilians from existence? What about them.
And It wasn't just myx that erased the multiverse, it was a pissed off myx, that was driven to it, by bat-mite.
Still beyonder could have destroyed all the abstracts, the multiverse, and the only thing holding him back, is that he wanted to learn.
and the point of this is what? Cuz I still dont' see anything the beyonder did that mxy didnt. And the point about mxy being defeated by a weakened spectre, in light of what mxy did to the multiverses, only implies that the spectre is leagues and away more powerful than anyone is giving him credit for. The spectre is not the equal of the LT. He is waaaay under him and at the same time Far far far above him. It's the nature of DC comics. it has been and probably will be. It's how they make for an interesting story. just like you said the beyonder could have destroyed the multi verse at any time. Well on panel, he didnt. Mxy is on panel doing just that. I'm going for the one who has actual proof on panel.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlHello bad guy, secret wars is about him, of course he isn't going to destroy the multiverse, just like juggernaut isn't going to put hulk down.
and the point of this is what? Cuz I still dont' see anything the beyonder did that mxy didnt. And the point about mxy being defeated by a weakened spectre, in light of what mxy did to the multiverses, only implies that the spectre is leagues and away more powerful than anyone is giving him credit for. The spectre is not the equal of the LT. He is waaaay under him and at the same time Far far far above him. It's the nature of DC comics. it has been and probably will be. It's how they make for an interesting story. just like you said the beyonder could have destroyed the multi verse at any time. Well on panel, he didnt. Mxy is on panel doing just that. I'm going for the one who has actual proof on panel.
And LT can create universes, like nothing, he can powerup and power down the IG, but at the same time hes scared of beyonder, that's got to tell you something.
Beyonder can wipe things from existence, and can beat down celestials h2h(the whole race at that, or a lot of them)
He can take full Phoenix blasts like he was getting hit with a helium ballon.
You think that one feat from myx is going to trump all the feats by Beyonder? He did it once, and now your whole arguement is based off it, just because beyonder didn't, doesn't mean he can't, but since he didn't, I might as well give up. He was said, not by him, not by dr strange, not by spiderman, but by the author on the panel, that he is 1 000 000x more powerful than the multiverse, and he didn't prove this statment wrong, but if you choose to ignore that, then what's the point of showing proof, other than being called a marvel zombie, when I am sleeping. I'm not being rude, but you are, and you don't need to be.
Originally posted by bigbran
Beyonder was beyond anything in the multiverse, he could have destroyed it at anytime, but that wouldn't make a good story, because there would be no explanation for why it would be brought back.
Even at a weak form he was still more powerful than a room full of abstracts. While myx was weaker than a weak spectre.
Beyonder was what his name implied, he was beyond anything and everything.
What about containing a blast that would have destroyed the microverse, what about lifting a hand and destroying 3 massive planets, What about wiping someone off from the multiverse, what about erasing 30 000 civilians from existence? What about them.
And It wasn't just myx that erased the multiverse, it was a pissed off myx, that was driven to it, by bat-mite.
Still beyonder could have destroyed all the abstracts, the multiverse, and the only thing holding him back, is that he wanted to learn.
But you do bring something else to point. Mxy is most often written as omniscient, knowing how the story ends, while Beyonder strives to understand.
Biasedness becomes increasingly evidence as you say things like "Mxy was weaker than a weak Spectre." lol.
Originally posted by JuntaiJust saying he got taken down by a weaker spectre. And one of the 2 were pis, either when emp joker beat spectre, or DOV spectre beat myx.
And like Beyonder he can completely alter universal standards and concepts.But you do bring something else to point. Mxy is most often written as omniscient, knowing how the story ends, while Beyonder strives to understand.
Biasedness becomes increasingly evidence as you say things like "Mxy was weaker than a weak Spectre." lol.
Originally posted by bigbranSpectre didn't fight Mxy, he destroyed all the latent magic in the DCU, giving Mxy vastly less to play around with. He was weakened because of it.[Or at least pretended to be, because each time he needed it, he had the power he required. Mxy is funny like that.] So you're wrong in saying "He got taken down a by a weaker Spectre." It never happened.
Just saying he got taken down by a weaker spectre. And one of the 2 were pis, either when emp joker beat spectre, or DOV spectre beat myx.
Plus if you have read this guys posts. He thinks that myx can't take LT but he thinks myx can take pr beyonder.
Also- Spectre wasn't neccisarily weakened, just deluded. The toughest person he fought in the series, Nabu, the most powerful Lord of Order in that particular Age of Magic, had asked Spectre why he hadn't destroyed him yet, among other things about his quest.
Spectre replied "It does not matter how long it takes, only that it is done."
Insinuating that Spectre could not only have done it instantly, but with little effort... and even Nabu knew such to the point of asking why. lol.
But that doesn't really matter much int his debate.
Spectre is pretty much top dogg as is in DC, and is likewise beyond all reality.
Originally posted by Mordum
Here we go i have the scans enjoy.
Superman & Batman: World's Funniest is not canon. Why bring it up?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_and_Batman:_World's_Funnest
http://www.rambles.net/dorkin_funnest.html
Other than this can I have in continuity feats that put Imps above cube beings and abstracts.
Biasedness becomes increasingly evidence as you say things like "Mxy was weaker than a weak Spectre." lol.
Wait. So you haven't said that Spectre is more powerful than Mxy because he took the Imp's powers away. I could've sworn going through old threads with you bringing up a scan of Mxy speaking to Clark about losing his magic.
Spectre didn't fight Mxy, he destroyed all the latent magic in the DCU, giving Mxy vastly less to play around with. He was weakened because of it.[Or at least pretended to be, because each time he needed it, he had the power he required. Mxy is funny like that.] So you're wrong in saying "He got taken down a by a weaker Spectre." It never happened.
Wait I could have sworn someone saying that Spectre blinked and took away the Imps powers. And it does not matter, the point is Mxy's can be weakened.
Which brings up this point Juntai. Is the Spectre more powerful because he took way the Imps magic or is Mxy more powerful since Spectre was taken over by Joker with Mxy's power.
Other these ambigious feats, what else has an Imp done to bring up such acclaimation?
World's Funniest is an Elseworld and not in continuity. Let's not bring that up.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingGiven Infinite Crisis, Worlds Funnest is canon. Pretty much everything was linked some way into continuity. Including all the worlds they destroyed and rebuilt there. Did you not read Infinite Crisis or just didn't fully grasp it?
Superman & Batman: World's Funniest is not canon. Why bring it up?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_and_Batman:_World's_Funnest
http://www.rambles.net/dorkin_funnest.htmlOther than this can I have in continuity feats that put Imps above cube beings and abstracts.
Wait. So you haven't said that Spectre is more powerful than Mxy because he took the Imp's powers away. I could've sworn going through old threads with you bringing up a scan of Mxy speaking to Clark about losing his magic.
Wait I could have sworn someone saying that Spectre blinked and took away the Imps powers. And it does not matter, the point is Mxy's can be weakened.
Which brings up this point Juntai. Is the Spectre more powerful because he took way the Imps magic or is Mxy more powerful since Spectre was taken over by Joker with Mxy's power.
Other these ambigious feats, what else has an Imp done to bring up such acclaimation?
World's Funniest is an Elseworld and not in continuity. Let's not bring that up.
Spectre is more powerful, but the host is the judge and is sometimes confused and can't judge properly. Besides, it was a Superman is the awesomest tale, like most all of Mxy's tales.
Spectre eye-beamed a 5th dimension Genie. They are capable of close to the same, but most anyone in-the-know would put Mxy on a higher level. He's like the 'chosen one' of the entire 5th dimension.
Originally posted by Juntai
Given Infinite Crisis, Worlds Funnest is canon. Pretty much everything was linked some way into continuity. Including all the worlds they destroyed and rebuilt there. Did you not read Infinite Crisis or just didn't fully grasp it?Spectre is more powerful, but the host is the judge and is sometimes confused and can't judge properly. Besides, it was a Superman is the awesomest tale, like most all of Mxy's tales.
Spectre eye-beamed a 5th dimension Genie. They are capable of close to the same, but most anyone in-the-know would put Mxy on a higher level. He's like the 'chosen one' of the entire 5th dimension.
Quisp and Batmite are equal to mxy in power.
Originally posted by Juntai
Batmite yes, the genies are close, but not quite imo.
But that doesn't change what I said about Mxy being the chosen. He'll always come out on top.
Mxy is bad ass. He took earth one and cracked it over the spectre's Head. And then him and Batmite laughed about it. lol. What makes the imps so powerful is the fact that it's nothing to them. They dont' respect thier power at all. To them it's like breathing. It's nothing to brag about or fear. it just is. NO other cosmic dieties have thier power or outlook on thier power. The imps never ever say anything is to hard. Or that that took quite a bit of power. Becuz in honesty, they are the only beings i have ever seen in comics who truly dont' have a limit.
