Originally posted by Skeets
That scan with Quasar is funny,considering the fact that he's layed one out before....
Really when?
Originally posted by Skeets
Kubik himself stated that Celestials dwarf him in power.
Kubik himself also said that Celestials are Galaxies before they are born.
Kubik can Warp a Universe.
Go figure.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Really when?Kubik himself also said that Celestials are Galaxies before they are born.
Kubik can Warp a Universe.
Go figure.
Originally posted by sexyking
Well arnt you all speculating on the beyonder race power, so it would only be right for others to speculate on the levels of the dimesions.
Not really.
You have NO idea whether or not there's 30 - 40 or infinite Dimensions in DC.
On the other hand.
We have atleast on panel proof of what a fraction of the Beyonder's power is capable of.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Not really.You have NO idea whether or not there's 30 - 40 or infinite Dimensions in DC.
On the other hand.
We have atleast on panel proof of what a fraction of the Beyonder's power is capable of.
Yes but i could also state we have a fraction of dimesions available, the truth is their could be dimesions upon dimensions we wont really know until DC says this is the last of the imp dimesions.
Originally posted by Mr Master
It was the entire 2D Universe they turned into 3D, sounds like a warp to me.They warped the 2D Universe from 616 Universe.
imo, that's Multiversal.
I was refering to the Imps not being Multiversal. But current cube beings aren't multiversal either. That would be like say Odin and Seth's fight that shock the multiverse and took place on multiple planes mean they're multiversal.
What they did was not exactly multiverse. Not in the same sense imo. In fact they brought those 2D into the 3D world. Impressive again but if a Celestial pulled a human into hyperspace I wouldn't actually call that multiversal either. But like I've said, the Imps do cartoony stuff along these lines as well and I wouldn't consider them multiversal either.
Making a Watcher go blind, isn't a feat to consider?Aren't Watchers more powerful than Celestials?
Watchers aren't above the Celestials. They're punks that do nothing but break they're own sworn oaths. Kubik also made it clear that the Celestials were above them and LT's level in the cosmos.
According to Kubik,Interestingly enough though, he said that in FF Annual#23 & 26, prior to this issue with post-retcon Beyonder and MM.
This after those issues
"One of the most powerful beings in the Universe"...not comic talk, that's the Living Tribunal talking.Kubik made both statements.
We're left with feats to compare.
A Celestial is a Galaxy before it's born according to Kubik.
The issue did go on to say Cosmic Cubes are below Celestials.
Which is silly cause Kubik can warp a Universe.Kubik turning a UNIVERSE into a sphere the size of his hand.
Post-retcon Beyonder was a Universe, but he was weaker than Eternity.Even a Pocket Universe contains (millions of Galaxies) [/B]
Going by feats alone then Kubik is above a Celestial. But Kubik himself did back away from a Celestial and not want any part of him. And Frankiln Richards as a child also made a pocket universe. Full potential is around Celestial level. The Celestials have few appearances and aren't exactly your emotional being that goes about and uses they're powers like fire works. You have to be very important in the cosmos for them to even acknowledge you. Flick Molecule Man off and he'll attack you.
Originally posted by Skeets
Check out the first set of Scans as quasar punks a Watcher....😂
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=29822
That was PIS from the late 80's.
And yet Galactus says a Watcher is MORE powerful than him.
"Not even Galactus has the power to do such a thing"
"would require Power beyond any I thought to exist in this Universe"
"The Gods themselves might quail before the enormity of such an undertaking"
Quasar can punk Galactus I imagine like a baby.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
At least he based it on logic.
How do you know if the 100 dimentional imps are more powerful than the 5th for example?
maybe it's a roll'over at 10.
🙄 Well based on how the hierarchy seems to have been structured and judging by the comparison in power to a third dimension imp and a tenth we can safely say if there are other dimensional imps they only get stronger the higher their level go.
Originally posted by sexyking
Yes but i could also state we have a fraction of dimesions available, the truth is their could be dimesions upon dimensions we wont really know until DC says this is the last of the imp dimesions.
Until then all I know is the highest is the 10th dimension.
And dimensional level is getting overrated here. Can we have some feats of the Imps to gauge their actual level? Seems like the cube beings powers are getting overrated while the Imps are getting overhyped.
I've seen scans displaying the cube beings' powers. Can I have scans of the Imps' so-called multiverse powers? Scans, not words. Scan's other than Emporer Joker please. Anything Mxy or another Imp did on their own.
Can't believe we're all up this late. Going to sleep now. Good night Skeet, good night Mr. Master, good night bigbran, sexyking, and everyone else. 😛
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I was refering to the Imps not being Multiversal.
🙁
My bad wwk.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
But current cube beings aren't multiversal either. That would be like say Odin and Seth's fight that shock the multiverse and took place on multiple planes mean they're multiversal.
I agree Cube beings are not Multiversal, never said they were though.
I was referring to Molecule Man.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
What they did was not exactly multiverse. Not in the same sense imo. In fact they brought those 2D into the 3D world. Impressive again but if a Celestial pulled a human into hyperspace I wouldn't actually call that multiversal either.
"they brought those 2D into the 3D world"
Nah, friend.
"Inhabitants of the Two Dimensional Universe...discover themselves suddenly possessed of the New Attribute called Height"
I don't see anything about bringing them into a 3D world.
They existed in a form, until their Universe was warped, rearranging their form.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Watchers aren't above the Celestials.
Galactus said, he didn't know such power like that of the Watchers existed in the Universe.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Going by feats alone then Kubik is above a Celestial.
That's all I'm saying.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
But Kubik himself did back away from a Celestial and not want any part of him.
Very true, I have the issues...
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
And Frankiln Richards as a child also made a pocket universe. Full potential is around Celestial level..
But it was a Universe Kubik warped...not a "pocket universe"
Originally posted by Mr Master
🙁"they brought those 2D into the 3D world"
Nah, friend.
"Inhabitants of the Two Dimensional Universe...discover themselves suddenly possessed of the New Attribute called Height"I don't see anything about bringing them into a 3D world.
They existed in a form, until their Universe was warped, rearranging their form.
'Kay, that they did. Gave them form and warped them. And that's where I'm getting at. It's a powerful feat but does that make it multiversal in power? 5D Imps doing the same feats in the 3D universe and it's not multiverse level. It's what they can do. Galactus also asked for the Eye of Aggamotto and Strange's experience to travel across realities to find the Magus. Strange is experienced at that, the Eye energy sources better, Galactus is still more powerful than both.
Galactus said, he didn't know such power like that of the Watchers existed in the Universe.
That whole part isn't exactly true since Galactus' UN and the Celestial's posses tech's above the Watchers. I've looked at those scans and it's impressive but I don't see it being above what the Celestials can do. Infinity Gauntlet 5 had the Celestial's arrange planets as weapons against Thanos. Exitar killed the most powerful Watcher in one shot (in FF 399-400). The Celestial's operate from hyperspace and have been said to be Eternity's creation. The Watcher's are merely an ancient race.
But it was a Universe Kubik warped...not a "pocket universe" [/B]
Universe or pocket universe I'm not sure. But I do know that it took 5 cubes for the Magus to put Eternity into a catatonic state. I really doubt Kubik himself was affecting a universe.
