Originally posted by Mr Master
So I guess the Fantastic Four are just as powerful as your Mxy.Cause they met "God", who was the Artist of the Comic book in real life 😆
Mxy did it under his own power. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! no one in comics is portrayed as coming to the real world under thier own power.
Originally posted by rotiart
I don't remember DOV spectre being backed by the presence... yet he cancelled all magic in dc. The beyonders are above cosmic cubes/kubiks as kubik is only an tiny portion of the powers of the beyonder.If kubik is a tiny portion of beyonders power as stated on panel... and kubik was wrecking multiversal havoc... what does that tell you?
Beyonder has never been "defeated" any of his true defeats are all a matter of CIS, in which he allowed it to occur. And Beyonder, Preretecon beyonder, was an example of what the beyonder race was about before he was retconned. Beyonder had the power of millions of multiverses... he punked every cosmic being at the same time. even LT who is second only to TOAA. and LT's power levle doesn't flucuate like spectre's can. He is the second.
btw. mxy coming to marvel, and mr. impossible going to dc is an example of mr. mxy's power right? then accept the fact that So mr. impossible going to dc and became the equivalent of an imp there.. He was shown to be the equivalent of the dc model. but guess what Mr. impossible was freaksishly scared of thanos with the IG.....and its been stated by DC writers that Mr. Impossible is the equivalent of Mr. mxy. The beyonder(s) are so far above imps. imps are like to beyonder, what superman is to imps, humans are to superman and amoeba's are to men.
Originally posted by Mr Master
You've been talking alot actualy..Most of it misinformation.
actually most of it wasn't, the one thing i had wrong, i said in a post that i would look it up and recant if I was wrong, which i did. now point out EVER OTHER THING that I said was wrong. please don't make a statement without backing it up.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This is pointless, if it was retconned that the beyonder was not a true beyonder, then that means the LT wasn't really afraid of him now was he?
Which is why we refer to him as Pre-retcon or Post-retcon Beyonder.
Pre-retcon>LT
Post-retcon<LT
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your stating all of this stuff the beyonder did, but show me that mxy cannot do it. Could the beyonder go to the 5th dimension and run it like he did the mu? NOT. They would pimp slap him all to hell.
Beyonder was collapsing dimensions without even noticing it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He did every thing on in the 3rd dimension. The 3rd dimension is nothing to mxy. When superman and the atom went to the 3rd dimension, they were shown as pieces of paper. SOmething to be drawn on. and then they looked like kids drawings with crayolas. This is how the 5th dimensional beings see the 3rd dimension.
Dude, do us all a favor and DON"T compare Supes or Atom to the Beyonder.
You with these dimensions.
Or is it you do not understand.
Every Dimension and Universe within the Multi-verse beyonder controlled, and EVERYTHING outside the Multi-verse Beyonder was.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy could do every bit of the same thing to the mu that the joker did to the dcu with mxy's fraction of power.
Your speculation.
And that "fraction" was 99% of Mxy's power.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlShow me some proof that myx can do the things that beyonder did, and we aren't even getting into the good showings of beyonder.
This is pointless, if it was retconned that the beyonder was not a true beyonder, then that means the LT wasn't really afraid of him now was he? And still, not one single person has explained what the beyonder did that mxy cannot. Your stating all of this stuff the beyonder did, but show me that mxy cannot do it. Could the beyonder go to the 5th dimension and run it like he did the mu? NOT. They would pimp slap him all to hell. He did every thing on in the 3rd dimension. The 3rd dimension is nothing to mxy. When superman and the atom went to the 3rd dimension, they were shown as pieces of paper. SOmething to be drawn on. and then they looked like kids drawings with crayolas. This is how the 5th dimensional beings see the 3rd dimension. Mxy could do every bit of the same thing to the mu that the joker did to the dcu with mxy's fraction of power.
Originally posted by Mr Masterseems like where on the same page here.
Which is why we refer to him as Pre-retcon or Post-retcon Beyonder.Pre-retcon>LT
Post-retcon<LT
Beyonder was collapsing dimensions without even noticing it.
Dude, do us all a favor and DON"T compare Supes or Atom to the Beyonder.
You with these dimensions.Or is it you do not understand.
Every Dimension and Universe within the Mutli-verse beyonder controlled, and EVERYTHING outside the Multi-verse Beyonder was.
Your speculation.
And that "fraction" was 99% of Mxy's power.
Neither Beyonder or imps are all powerful, the cosmic cube is some type of remote control and it has the power to control something more powerful than it, the imps can control without use of cube and therefore are probably more powerful, he who can control tv without remote is more powerful than he who has to use remote.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The joker pimped the entire DCU with not even all of mxy's powers and didnt' even know how to use it. he made the freakin quintessence his joking boys. cracked them all up. Mxy can even affect people's thoughts and minds. The beyonder has never been shown to do that.
The Joker mind controlled the Quintecense, skyfather level beings and Spectre whose power goes up and down. Can I have other feats of Mxy other than this?
Jesse7I agree with Mr. M that the Beyonds must be powerful by the description and narration provided, but I also agree with Validius that the IMP's win this battle by feats and on panel showings.
Can I have some feats other than Emperor Joker? Not being a d#ck just asking.
SkeetsSure the Beyonds can be claimed as all multiversal powerful beings, but hype can easily lead to dissapointment, untill I see actual on panel feats that justifies their description im siding with the IMPS over beyonders on this one =/.
You'll be severally dissapointed than. There is no feats of the True Beyonders. Mr. Master's scan showed that power seeping from the Beyond Realm is the source of the cubes power. Difference everyone should keep in mind is True Beyonder, Pre-Retcon Beyonder, cosmic cubes, and cube beings.
nvrbeenwthagirlI don't.We all know what some of the imps can do.We have yet to see anything that would put the so called high level "Beyonders" over any of the 5th dimension Imps let alone all the other Dimensional imps/beings.
I still don't know what the Imps can do that they earn such hype.
LT, Eternity, and two other abstracts are having a meeting at the 16TH DIMENSION. I REPEAT. ETERNITY & TWO OTHER ABSTRACTS ARE HAVING A MEETING IN THE 16TH DIMENSION. Mxy is from the 5th dimension. My point simply is that 5th D isn't all that. Imps are so powerful because they come from the 5th dimension while interacting with 3rd dimensional DC beings. They Celestial's has a similar deal, they're real bodies is in hyperspace dimesion but the shell is meant for work in the 3rd 616 universe.
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All this tells us is the origins of the cubes powers.
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Realize how ALL Reality is falling apart because of them, (both are POST-Retcon).
A WATCHER even goes blind in another Universe.
I disagree with Mr. Master with this scan. They merely that damaged parts of one reality and sent shockwaves to other parts of the universe. Why I say this is because cube beings are below Celestials, Kubik made this clear.
But blinding a Watcher, causing statue bleeding, and turning a plant into "a superhuman intellects" are things similar to what Imps do. They were also destroying multiple planes if I recall.
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If Post-retcon Beyonder with a "Minute bit of Energy" from the Beyonders can cause "Havoc unthinkable to be wrecked across Multiversal Cosmography"
Hyperbole imo. Kosmos/Beyonder is not that important. In fact Kosmos is dead in Annihilations and 616 is just fine...cept for the Annihilation Wave...and Tenebros...and Thanos....and Death...
The True Beyonder's powers are unknown and I've yet to see anything impressive by the Imps. Can I have scans of Imps other than Emporer Joker? What have they done that's multiversal level as some are claiming?
This fight is inconclusive at best.
Originally posted by pulsarThis is pre ret conned beyonder where talking about now.
Neither Beyonder or imps are all powerful, the cosmic cube is some type of remote control and it has the power to control something more powerful than it, the imps can control without use of cube and therefore are probably more powerful, he who can control tv without remote is more powerful than he who has to use remote.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your stating things that the beyonder has done. But what has he done that mr. mxy cannot do? NOTHING.
Can Mxy eradicate life in the physical plane and the astral plane from ever existing?
Beyonder can.
Beyonder erases from existence (from ever being) a space armada that comprised of over 30,000 advanced civilizations.
Death and Mephisto will never savor those billions of souls...because due to the Beyonder they never even existed.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Can Mxy eradicate life in the physical plane and the astral plane from ever existing?Beyonder can.
Beyonder erases from existence (from ever being) a space armada that comprised of over 30,000 advanced civilizations.
Death and Mephisto will never savor those billions of souls...because due to the Beyonder they never even existed.
Originally posted by bigbran
I was going to post that!! But i decided against that.
I dont' have the use of a scanner, But The joker made bruce wayne die every day, and then brought him right back to life. WIth the memory of each horrible death. The Spectre had to remove the memories just so bruce could be normal again. Darksied said that mxy's power is like the anti life equation. look up what the ale is and can do. the 5th dimension imps also have thier powers in thier 5th dimension and in others. when the queen of the 10th was coming and devouring entire realities, the imps where skipping from dimension and reality to reality with thier power. ALl of the things you guys are posting about the beyonder is fine. I have read those comics. But what has he done that mxy cannot. Hell mxy can change your mind and your thoughts and alter the very physics. he can make 2+2 equal fish if he likes. The beyonder remade things with in the given laws of the universe. He killed death. Mxy could make it so death never existed at all. mxy can rewrite the time line. All of his descriptions that I can find on him from DC says that he his power is omnipotent. I"m jsut not buying that the beyonder is anymore powerful than mxy. preretcon and especially post retcon. MOst of the feats you guys state have to do with marvel abstracts which have no meanging to dc. ANd any feat you name that he has done with reality, i don't see why mxy can't do them and better?
