Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlBeyonder can bring people back to life too.
I dont' have the use of a scanner, But The joker made bruce wayne die every day, and then brought him right back to life. WIth the memory of each horrible death. The Spectre had to remove the memories just so bruce could be normal again. Darksied said that mxy's power is like the anti life equation. look up what the ale is and can do. the 5th dimension imps also have thier powers in thier 5th dimension and in others. when the queen of the 10th was coming and devouring entire realities, the imps where skipping from dimension and reality to reality with thier power. ALl of the things you guys are posting about the beyonder is fine. I have read those comics. But what has he done that mxy cannot. Hell mxy can change your mind and your thoughts and alter the very physics. he can make 2=2 equal fish if he likes. The beyonder remade things with in the given laws of the universe. He killed death. Mxy could make it so death never existed at all. mxy can rewrite the time line. All of his descriptions that I can find on him from DC says that he his power is omnipotent.
Thanx to Mr M again.
Okay. real quick. to me Beyonder.. pre-retcon beyonder.. was originally a member of the race of The Beyonders... however after the retcon, instead of being a member of the beyonders, he was mean a containment unit.. which is a portion of the power of the beyonders. Still beyonders battle with moleman man post retcon cause damage on a multiversal level. PreRetcon, noone. not even molecule man, could defeat beyonder. The only way to defeat beyonder was to reason with him. He was just that strong. Not even LT mean anything to beyonder.
so to me PreRetcon... is an example of what the True Beyonder race should be. Post Retcon is an example of a cosmic containment unit... which is a fraction of the power of the True Beyonder Race.
so you're saying mr. mxy... who is sooo powerful... who lost all his powers.. and his mind thats to spectre... could defeat a face.. from beyond our multiverse?
btw... just because mr. myx is from another dimension.. .doesn't mean hes from another multiverse... his power should still lie within the domain of the presence...
And myx meeting the writers... is pis. it is no different than deadpool or mr. fantastic.
Beyonder is above bios saying he is omnipotent. He is on panel omnipotent.
But in the end, myx got punked by a spectre that was fighting a beefed up captain marvel.
even though cm was extremely beefed, he still isn't comparable to beyonder.
I know this is ABC logic, but spectre punked myx, and he was actually stalemating cm.
Originally posted by bigbran
Beyonder can bring people back to life too.
Beyonder can also warp realities.
the ALE is comparable to the IG, and the IG is below LT, and Beyonder scared the shit out of LT.
Even a room full of abstracts weren't about to jump him.Thanx to Mr M again.
actually ur information is wrong about the ALE.it is nothing like the IG. The ale is a living being that is beyond the power of the multi-verse. ONe piece of the ale would be like having the beyonders powers.
Originally posted by Skeets
Why were the last few pages about pre-retcon Beyonder?Mxy and Bat-mite pretty much detroyed the whole multiverse and then remade it and left just because they got bored.Mxy has spoken with writers before and has predicted what was gonna happen in the next page.
cause pre-retcon is comparable to true beyonders. as he came from the beyond.. as the true beyonders are stated..
btw.. mr. mxy breaking the fourth wall isn't anything new. its happened in marvel before.
Originally posted by rotiart
cause pre-retcon is comparable to true beyonders. as he came from the beyond.. as the true beyonders are stated..btw.. mr. mxy breaking the fourth wall isn't anything new. its happened in marvel before.
NO what he is saying is that mxy and batmite got bored and played around and actually destroyed the entire DC-Multi verse. They did all of this for fun in one comic. IT took parallax an entire cross over to destroy the multiverse. and even then, he still didnt' get any of the higher dimensions, they remain unchanged by any crisis, zero hour, or infinite crisis. BatMight and mxy played kick ball with the multi-verse, and then restored it as if nothing had happened. So yeah, mxy is on the beyonders lvl. THANKS!!!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO what he is saying is that mxy and batmite got bored and played around and actually destroyed the entire DC-Multi verse. They did all of this for fun in one comic. IT took parallax an entire cross over to destroy the multiverse. and even then, he still didnt' get any of the higher dimensions, they remain unchanged by any crisis, zero hour, or infinite crisis. BatMight and mxy played kick ball with the multi-verse, and then restored it as if nothing had happened. So yeah, mxy is on the beyonders lvl. THANKS!!!
What issues was that? is it cannon?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
actually most of it wasn't, the one thing i had wrong, i said in a post that i would look it up and recant if I was wrong, which i did. now point out EVER OTHER THING that I said was wrong. please don't make a statement without backing it up.
As you wish...
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Op named all of the higher Dimension beings. We all know what a fifth Dimension being has. It posses all the power of the INfinity gauntlet and more.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and ulike the beyonder, mxy is truly immortal and cannot die.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the queen is just one of many who can eat whole realities, very powerful realities at that, then She by herself could eat at least some of the beyonders.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy can do all the same things that the beyonder did.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder hasn't crossed any universal barriers.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy can even affect people's thoughts and minds. The beyonder has never been shown to do that.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy didn't cross a universe like the beyonder did, he crossed the omniverse. He did something that the beyonder has never been shown capable of doing.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the beyonder can't go to the 5th dimension and turn it on it's ear. He would go there and try some silly stuff like he did in the MU and they would laugh at him and call him a silly 3 dimensional wimp.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder still operated on a 3rd dimensional plane. EVery one he beat operated on that plane.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
THe Spectre is the same spectre in all of Dc's dimensions. he never changes. The living tribunal is not. There is a differnt one for every dimension in marvel.
I forgive you for this one, because you acknowledged it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the imps whoop all over the beyonders race. THe queen of the tenth could do it alone.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy could do the exact same things in marvel that the beyonder did.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Could the beyonder go to the 5th dimension and run it like he did the mu? NOT. They would pimp slap him all to hell. He did every thing on in the 3rd dimension.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy could do every bit of the same thing to the mu that the joker did to the dcu with mxy's fraction of power.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder remade things with in the given laws of the universe.
nvrbeenwthagirlANd this some how proves that the Beyonder is more powerful than Myx? You still haven't proven that he can do anything that Mxy cannot. He has done many things in the marvel u. he has been stated as having this much power. What makes this statement about him, somehow more powerful than mxy? the multi verse is not the omniverse, where mxy resides.
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Mxy is OMNIVERSAL? Can you tell me more about this. The True Beyonder's have no feats but since when is Mxy being omniversal.
the multi verse is not the omniverse, where mxy resides. where all comicdome resides.Mxy is more powerful than dc's multiverse as well. he exist outside of all of thier alternate universes. he's been the same mxy since post crisis. Which means he is more powerful than any and all of thier multiverse as well. Mxy can do all the same things that the beyonder did.
I'd love for proof of this Mxy > DC multiverse. And Kirby's 4th world was not affected by Crisis as well, but we know that isn't true.
We all know the power that mxy wields. He's just one of an entire Dimension. Now his entire dimension was scared to all Hell of The Queen of the Tenth Dimension. Now she's just one of How many from her dimension. She was eating Universes for fun. The OP put every one inbetween the 5th thru the tenth against the beyonders. That's too much power to go against. Most of this battle has to be done on speculation, but considering, the queen is just one of many who can eat whole realities, very powerful realities at that, then She by herself could eat at least some of the beyonders. and she has an entire race at her command who might well be able to do the same thing. not mention that if the 5th dimension imps wield such great power, each dimension increases in power. By the time oyu get to the 7th dimension, they are infinitely more powerful than the imps of the 5th. we see how the 3rd dimension compares to the 5th. they go to the 3rd and become GOD. SO imagine what a 7th can do to thier universe. by the time you add all those dimensions up, they can destroy the omniverse all by themselves, no help needed from the beyonders.
By this logic, Eternity and other abstracts exceeds Mxy.
That's the 16th dimension they're using to hold a meeting.
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Mxy crossed over to the MU. No one is denying that it was most of his power that made that possible with some minor help from the impossible man showing him how to get to the mu. The beyonder hasn't crossed any universal barriers.
The Grandmaster and Krona moved both JLA and Avengers about both DC and Marvel. Crossing from one company does not make you Eternity level.
The joker pimped the entire DCU with not even all of mxy's powers and didnt' even know how to use it. he made the freakin quintessence his joking boys. cracked them all up. Mxy can even affect people's thoughts and minds. The beyonder has never been shown to do that.
99.99 % and he controlled skyfather beings. As for Spectre his powers go up and down, one minute he beats all the Imps and the next Joker with one Imp's power pimps him. Other than this feat, what else put's Mxy on omniverse or multiverse level? When Mxy owns the Endless or Lucifer or Spectre at the height of his powers, then we can talk.
And in that crossover over, the Silver Surfer reversed Mxy's spell and restored an entire city to Clark's amazement.
beyonder stated that cows do not have wings, because he wishes it to be so. reality and thought are one and the same for him. If he wished cows to have wings, they would.
im paraphrasing.. and i can't remember if it was pigs or cows... but yah.. he didn't will anything to happen. it just is.
however if he isn't careful, he can corrupt/change the universe just by thinking.. why.. wouldn't it be nice if men had hair on their elbows. and poof.. we would.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
😕Mxy is OMNIVERSAL? Can you tell me more about this. The True Beyonder's have no feats but since when is Mxy being omniversal.
I'd love for proof of this Mxy > DC multiverse. And Kirby's 4th world was not affected by Crisis as well, but we know that isn't true.
By this logic, Eternity and other abstracts exceeds Mxy.
That's the 16th dimension they're using to hold a meeting.
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http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shistory5wo5.jpgThe Grandmaster and Krona moved both JLA and Avengers about both DC and Marvel. Crossing from one company does not make you Eternity level.
99.99 % and he controlled skyfather beings. As for Spectre his powers go up and down, one minute he beats all the Imps and the next Joker with one Imp's power pimps him. Other than this feat, what else put's Mxy on omniverse or multiverse level? When Mxy owns the Endless or Lucifer or Spectre at the height of his powers, then we can talk.
And in that crossover over, the Silver Surfer reversed Mxy's spell and restored an entire city to Clark's amazement.
actually the server didnt' reverse the spell. he restored the city to it's original size. then mxy made fun of the surfer and said big deal. if I had turned it into a pickle, he wouldn't have been able to do a thing about it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSo your resorting in using crossovers?
actually the server didnt' reverse the spell. he restored the city to it's original size. then mxy made fun of the surfer and said big deal. if I had turned it into a pickle, he wouldn't have been able to do a thing about it.
Originally posted by rotiart
so says mxy... but that could have been empty boasting to bluff.... mxy is the jester of his dimension after all...
when you show the surfer turing something into something completely differnt then I"ll believe you. The power cosmic is nothing to mxy. Myx could beat galactus with two hands tied behind his back. I know the surfer ain't nothing to mxy.. that is why mxy played the game with the imp man. cuz thier heroes where basically play things to them. and even then, mxy made fun of the imps lack of true power. Marvel heads never want to give dc toons any credit. Mxy was the first reality manipulator in comics. and has consistantly been shown to be omnipotent. Hell him and batmite together were rediculous.
Originally posted by bigbran
So your resorting in using crossovers?
before asking any question of me, reread all of the convo that started that particular statement. Every thing you guys say about the beyonder that supposedly puts him over mxy is stated stuff like he was stated to be such. and thus and thou and all that. and even the marvel abstracts where scared of him. That is all stated stuff. but on panel, he isn't shown doing anything mxy isn't capable of doing or hasn't done. And to top it off, in DC, abstracts mean nothing to mxy. the spectre is not an abstract. but an aspect of the almighty. that is such a difference than an abstract being of judgment.
