Originally posted by Deano
i can feel his frustration though. id wanna curse people who are clearly bias like the media, who pedals the lies to the public who msotly without question blindly accept the 'info' given to them
And George Galloway isn't in the least bit bias or working for an agenda? Anyone that needs to resort to those tactics in a debate is little more than a goon; he reminds me of Ann Coulter, that smelly c##t.
Originally posted by FeceMan
CUT HIS MIKE.(Wonder what would happen if we replaced "Galloway" with "O'Reilly" and kept the responses the same.)
Well, you know I wouldn't agree with that perspective. Galloway speaks some very sane adicve. O'Reilly doesn't. He speaks towards party lines while pretending he has an opinion of his own. But, much like my mother, he gets his information from one source. And it's an unquestioned source.
And I'm not one of those "America is wrong, everyone else is right" liberals. But the facts speak for themselves. Israel is WRONG in it's actions....and this guy is right in his dissertation of the events. And if the reporter is wrong...be it this chick or some sound bite **** on FOX news, she's f-ing wrong....and her memory should extend beyond the last month. Israel has had carte blache to do as it wishes in the middle east since it was created by the western world...is there any wonder why the middle eastern arab nations are pissed? As has been my perspective from the begining, let the Jews fend for themselves and let the chips fall where they may. Why should we condemn Lebonese Hezbollah for getting arms from Iran when the US gives them to Israel?
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Well, you know I wouldn't agree with that perspective. Galloway speaks some very sane adicve. O'Reilly doesn't. He speaks towards party lines while pretending he has an opinion of his own. But, much like my mother, he gets his information from one source. And it's an unquestioned source.And I'm not one of those "America is wrong, everyone else is right" liberals. But the facts speak for themselves. Israel is WRONG in it's actions....and this guy is right in his dissertation of the events. And if the reporter is wrong...be it this chick or some sound bite **** on FOX news, she's f-ing wrong....and her memory should extend beyond the last month. Israel has had carte blache to do as it wishes in the middle east since it was created by the western world...is there any wonder why the middle eastern arab nations are pissed? As has been my perspective from the begining, let the Jews fend for themselves and let the chips fall where they may. Why should we condemn Lebonese Hezbollah for getting arms from Iran when the US gives them to Israel?
although both you and george galloway seem to forget that all its neighbours have tried every trick in the book both militarily and otherwise to try and wipe them off the map
egypt nationalising the suez canal and banning israel (and it's european allies) from using it and thus attemping to destroy trade routes
followed by a military build up on israels borders and a warning to the UN to remove its troops...followed by the six day war whilst giving this lovely threat
""The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel ... to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation."
not to mention before this there was the attempted diversion of the jordan river to try and deny israel of water coincided with soviet sponsered attacks by Syria on Israel
and what happened at the end of the israelis "fending for themselves"
they increased their territory 3 times by taking the Gaza strip, the west bank, the Sinai peninsula and the Golan Heights
so yes...you have to have a long memory....but you cant have a selective one when talking about the situation either and so you have to address action taken against israel
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Maybe because he was on Celebrity Big Brother, crawling around and barking like a dog.-AC
when he could've been trying to save the world from the evil imperialist tyrants as well
lets have a look at some of his finer political moments
given that politicians tend to have advisors...you really think someone would have said something
Im suprised they aired the interview at all, the media has become so one sided biast its unbelievable. Isreal can run arround killing who they like with modern weapons, but as soon as any country goes against hem they are terrorists, as soon as anyone speeks out against them they are branded anti semites. Sad very Sad
Originally posted by Deano
its called freedom to do what you please..if someone wants to crawl around barking like a dog,..what business is it of mine
I respect his freedom to do it, but if he expects to still have any respect, politcally or otherwise, he's having a laugh.
"Take me seriously as a politician, even though I made a complete fool of myself by first appearing in Big Brother, then acting like a retard whilst in there.".
-AC
Originally posted by jaden101
although both you and george galloway seem to forget that all its neighbours have tried every trick in the book both militarily and otherwise to try and wipe them off the mapegypt nationalising the suez canal and banning israel (and it's european allies) from using it and thus attemping to destroy trade routes
followed by a military build up on israels borders and a warning to the UN to remove its troops...followed by the six day war whilst giving this lovely threat
""The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel ... to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation."
not to mention before this there was the attempted diversion of the jordan river to try and deny israel of water coincided with soviet sponsered attacks by Syria on Israel
and what happened at the end of the israelis "fending for themselves"
they increased their territory 3 times by taking the Gaza strip, the west bank, the Sinai peninsula and the Golan Heights
so yes...you have to have a long memory....but you cant have a selective one when talking about the situation either and so you have to address action taken against israel
as soon as one of those neighbors decide to build a country in the middle east that operates at teh expense of all it's neighbors then that perspective will be valid. As valid as the Suez Canal effecting countries other than Egypt.
Originally posted by jaden101
although both you and george galloway seem to forget that all its neighbours have tried every trick in the book both militarily and otherwise to try and wipe them off the mapegypt nationalising the suez canal and banning israel (and it's european allies) from using it and thus attemping to destroy trade routes
followed by a military build up on israels borders and a warning to the UN to remove its troops...followed by the six day war whilst giving this lovely threat
""The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel ... to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation."
not to mention before this there was the attempted diversion of the jordan river to try and deny israel of water coincided with soviet sponsered attacks by Syria on Israel
and what happened at the end of the israelis "fending for themselves"
they increased their territory 3 times by taking the Gaza strip, the west bank, the Sinai peninsula and the Golan Heights
so yes...you have to have a long memory....but you cant have a selective one when talking about the situation either and so you have to address action taken against israel
Complete BULLSH!T. There never was a buildup on the border of Israel by ANY COUNTRY. That was Soviet propaganda used to try and Make Israel fight back and get wiped off the map. Israel preemptive strike was uncalled for during the Six Days War.
Originally posted by Himo
Complete BULLSH!T. There never was a buildup on the border of Israel by ANY COUNTRY. That was Soviet propaganda used to try and Make Israel fight back and get wiped off the map. Israel preemptive strike was uncalled for during the Six Days War.
soviet propaganda?...it was the Egyptian foreign minister and the chief of staff of the united arab republic that told the secretary general of the UN that they were massing troops
"To your information, I gave my instructions to all U.A.R. armed forces to be ready for action against Israel, the moment it might carry out any aggressive action against any Arab country. Due to these instructions our troops are already concentrated in Sinai on our eastern border. For the sake of complete security of all U.N. troops which install OPs along our borders, I request that you issue your orders to withdraw all these troops immediately."
as for the attack being uncalled for...you mean apart from the fact that it was the Egyptian airforce which had some 450 new soviet fighters and bombers and could cause massive destruction in Israel
perhaps you should also look up the details of Egypts "operation dawn" plans
as soon as one of those neighbors decide to build a country in the middle east that operates at teh expense of all it's neighbors then that perspective will be valid. As valid as the Suez Canal effecting countries other than Egypt.
did iraq invade kuwait as well as going to war against Iran?...yes...is this at the expense of its neighbours?...yes
but then we're getting off the point
the point being that george galloway is about as unbiased as any extreme left of right wing broadcaster out their
Originally posted by jaden101
the point being that george galloway is about as unbiased as any extreme left of right wing broadcaster out their
I'm not arguing that at all. But as soon as one of the countries you've mentioned sets up a new nation in the middle east that acts with aggression towards it's neighbors and favour from the rest of the modern world, then I'll conceed my point.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I'm not arguing that at all. But as soon as one of the countries you've mentioned sets up a new nation in the middle east that acts with aggression towards it's neighbors and favour from the rest of the modern world, then I'll conceed my point.
well it was the UK that set up Israel after ww2...and yes it was an idiotic idea to give palestine independence at the same time as allowing the israelis to take over the area by withdrawing from the palestinian mandate
it kick started the arab israeli war...and it aint stopped since