Anti Moniter vs. Dark Pheonix

Started by Creshosk24 pages
Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Basti0n
LOL and the insults continue.
/No, calling you dumb is a pretty accurate description.

Originally posted by Basti0n
LOL again read x-men 154# and x-men Forever
Breaking the rules.

Originally posted by Basti0n
Anti Monitor is mortal he can die. Dark Phoenix cannot. She will always return. LOL she would prolly just feed off him.
Breaking the rules

Originally posted by Basti0n
And all i have to do is post once while you all post like 3-4 times every time I do . I lvoe this, keep it comming.
Attention whore....

See, just descriptions... the truth may be painful. but hey. *shrugs* that's life.

Basti0n Restricted

Anti Monitor is mortal, he has died,

Dark Phoenix cannot truly die, and the only time she came close was becuase she wanted to.

LOL I have nothing against the Anti-monitor, but I dont let me likes and dislikes get in the way. You guys have somehting against the phoenix and you let it get in the way of looking at this objectively.

And if I was breaking rules the mods would do something.

Read X-men 154#, at the beggining of the issue shes very much in a dark phoenix mode.

Read that and X-men forever and you'll understand the nature of the phoenix.

now lets keep going here. Im really enjoying the hell out of this.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Basti0n
Anti Monitor is mortal, he has died,

Dark Phoenix cannot truly die, and the only time she came close was becuase she wanted to.

LOL I have nothing against the Anti-monitor, but I dont let me likes and dislikes get in the way. You guys have somehting against the phoenix and you let it get in the way of looking at this objectively.

And if I was breaking rules the mods would do something.

Read X-men 154#, at the beggining of the issue shes very much in a dark phoenix mode.

Read that and X-men forever and you'll understand the nature of the phoenix.

now lets keep going here. Im really enjoying the hell out of this.

The only thing you have done for about 7 pages is tell us to read a book, how do you know we haven't? And we seem to have more knowledge of it than you.
This post should't even get a response.

Basti0n Restricted

yet it does, and I tell you to read the comics casue it will help you understand the characters better.

Anti Monitor is mortal, he has died,

Dark Phoenix cannot truly die, and the only time she came close was becuase she wanted to.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Basti0n
yet it does, and I tell you to read the comics casue it will help you understand the characters better.

Anti Monitor is mortal, he has died,

Dark Phoenix cannot truly die, and the only time she came close was becuase she wanted to.

No mortal would ever fight Spectre. or destroy universes.
Phoenix hasn't even destroyed a universe.
Again, how do you know I havent read it?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Basti0n
Anti Monitor is mortal, he has died,
So has the mortal shell that is Dark Phoenix.

Originally posted by Basti0n
Dark Phoenix cannot truly die,
DP was the mortal shell.

Originally posted by Basti0n
and the only time she came close was becuase she wanted to.
No, the Dark Phoenix avatar died. Fully. The spirit left the body.

Originally posted by Basti0n
LOL I have nothing against the Anti-monitor, but I dont let me likes and dislikes get in the way.
Wait I thought you said you liked the guy... Guess that was just bullshit to make us think you were objective. Which means you're not.

Originally posted by Basti0n
You guys have somehting against the phoenix and you let it get in the way of looking at this objectively.
I have nothing against the Phoenix Force, any of her avatars or her itself. Dude, I'm a major X-men fan. in case you couldn't tell either from my sig (a link to an X-men forum that is sadly defunked. 🙁 ) or who I debate most of the time I'm on here.

Originally posted by Basti0n
And if I was breaking rules the mods would do something.
Only if they found out about it.

Originally posted by Basti0n
Read X-men 154#, at the beggining of the issue shes very much in a dark phoenix mode.
Post proof or retract. I want scans.

Originally posted by Basti0n
Read that and X-men forever and you'll understand the nature of the phoenix.
I know the nature of the phoenix... you can ask quite a few people around here. They called me a prodigy of GS (if you don't know who that is and you're this staunch on the phoenix I pity you).

Originally posted by Basti0n
now lets keep going here. Im really enjoying the hell out of this.
Good, cause so am I...

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Basti0n
yet it does, and I tell you to read the comics casue it will help you understand the characters better.
You're assuming you understand the character better than we do.

Originally posted by Basti0n
Anti Monitor is mortal, he has died,
So was the Dark Phoenix Shell.

Originally posted by Basti0n
Dark Phoenix cannot truly die,
Yes she can. Dark phoenix refers to the mortal shell that the Phoenix Force uses

Originally posted by Basti0n
and the only time she came close was becuase she wanted to.
The shell still died.

bigbran Dead

If you used something out of the book instead of telling me to read it, I might take you seriously.

Mr Master Junior Member

The Phoenix Force (Jean Grey) getting KILLED by Xorn with an electromagnetic pulse.


So much for the mighty Phoenix Force.

Basti0n Restricted

why should I do your work for you? maybe if you read issues more instead of asking other people to do it for you you;d know these things.

Actualy the shell as you call it can only die when dark phoenix wishies it. In Phoenix Endsong jean tried to get Logan to kill her but Dark Phoenix wouldnt allow it so he couldnt.

Anti Monitor got his ass handed to him in Crisis 12#

In the Dark Phoenix Saga the watcher says if left unchecked Dark Phoenix could consume existance. Se you would know this if you read the issues instead of just asking others to do the job for you. Read X-men 154# and x-men forever you'll understand both Phoenix and Dark Phoenix better.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Phoenix Force (Jean Grey) getting KILLED by Xorn with an electromagnetic pulse.


So much for the mighty Phoenix Force.
again, that was a shell, and irealivent to the discussion because that is not the Dark Phoenix Shell

And as has been stated it needed to die in order to go do its phoenix work which leads up to dealing with sublime.

Basti0n Restricted

She wanted xorn to kill her so she could ascend and fullfill the phoenixs purpose. read all the issues not just one page

Mr Master Junior Member

The way to determine this battle is simple, by feats.

Anti-Monitor took down Universes,
even if he had ONLY destroyed ONE Universe,
that alone would put him above Phoenix,
who has NEVER destroyed, remade or created EVEN a SINGLE Universe.

Basti0n Restricted

Actualy the shell as you call it can only die when dark phoenix wishies it. In Phoenix Endsong jean tried to get Logan to kill her but Dark Phoenix wouldnt allow it so he couldnt.

Anti Monitor got his ass handed to him in Crisis 12#

In the Dark Phoenix Saga the watcher says if left unchecked Dark Phoenix could consume existance. Se you would know this if you read the issues instead of just asking others to do the job for you. Read X-men 154# and x-men forever you'll understand both Phoenix and Dark Phoenix better.

Mr Master Junior Member
Originally posted by Basti0n
She wanted xorn to kill her so she could ascend and fullfill the phoenixs purpose. read all the issues not just one page

I'll be back in about 15 minutes with plenty of scans of Jean as the Phoenix Force getting punked by different characters.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Basti0n
why should I do your work for you? maybe if you read issues more instead of asking other people to do it for you you;d know these things.

Actualy the shell as you call it can only die when dark phoenix wishies it. In Phoenix Endsong jean tried to get Logan to kill her but Dark Phoenix wouldnt allow it so he couldnt.

Anti Monitor got his ass handed to him in Crisis 12#

In the Dark Phoenix Saga the watcher says if left unchecked Dark Phoenix could consume existance. Se you would know this if you read the issues instead of just asking others to do the job for you. Read X-men 154# and x-men forever you'll understand both Phoenix and Dark Phoenix better.

Why should I read a book for you, and how do you know I haven't read it?
I'm going to play around until you actually prove anything wrong.
And the reason you should is to actually back anything up, it's not for me to read it, but its for you to help you actually prove anyone wrong.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Basti0n
Anti Monitor got his ass handed to him in Crisis 12#

In the Dark Phoenix Saga the watcher says if left unchecked Dark Phoenix could consume existance.

Phoenix has NEVER destroyed, remade or created a Universes.

Do you understand that?

NEVER...So with that, we can confidently assume AM would stomp her, since he HAS on panel ripped Universe apart.

I challenge you to prove me wrong.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Basti0n
B]why should I do your work for you?[/b]
You wouldn't be. You'd be doing your work,. which you're failing to do.

I've read the issues... they are irrealivent to the discussion.

Please try to stay on topic, you have not been ontopic the entire time you've been in here.

Originally posted by Basti0n
B] maybe if you read issues more instead of asking other people to do it for you you;d know these things.[/b]
maybe if you backed your claims with relivant proof you'd have a valid point. But you don't.

Originally posted by Basti0n
B]Actualy the shell as you call it can only die when dark phoenix wishies it.[/b]
One interpritation. I saw a conflicct with jeans memories as being part of the reason she allowed herself to die rather than just the phoenix Force deciding it was time to leave the shell behind.

Originally posted by Basti0n
B] In Phoenix Endsong jean tried to get Logan to kill her but Dark Phoenix wouldnt allow it so he couldnt.[/b]
Hmm... I think I get what you're saying. However the Dark phoenix that people use on these boards refers to the tainted shell of the phoenix back around 1ssue 137 of Uncanny. I suppose you could look at the personality that developed and was seen in Endsong as the Dark Phoenix...

Originally posted by Basti0n
B]Anti Monitor got his ass handed to him in Crisis 12#

In the Dark Phoenix Saga the watcher says[/b]

The watchers a stooge. He claimed his job of watching the 616 universe ended during the Onslaught saga. Everything he says is only his interpritation. Which makes it just as suspect as any other not truly omniscient characters.

Originally posted by Basti0n
B] if left unchecked Dark Phoenix could consume existance. Se you would know this if you read the issues instead of just asking others to do the job for you. Read X-men 154# and x-men forever you'll understand both Phoenix and Dark Phoenix better. [/B]
of course the rest of this quote is irrelivent since I made my veiws of the watcher-stooge clear.

Basti0n Restricted

lol the reason you should actually read the issues is cause it would expand your knowldge of the subject matter at hand. trust me it will help

Actualy the shell as you call it can only die when dark phoenix wishies it. In Phoenix Endsong jean tried to get Logan to kill her but Dark Phoenix wouldnt allow it so he couldnt.

Anti Monitor got his ass handed to him in Crisis 12#

In the Dark Phoenix Saga the watcher says if left unchecked Dark Phoenix could consume existance. Se you would know this if you read the issues instead of just asking others to do the job for you. Read X-men 154# and x-men forever you'll understand both Phoenix and Dark Phoenix better.

Creshosk Senior Member

[QUOTE=7168362]Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix has NEVER destroyed, remade or created a Universes.quote] after severing the future timeline that had sublime in it and then telekentikly recreated it?

Oh wait its you, you're full of shit anyway, and you're too close minded to even bother with... I'd put you on ignore if you weren't so damned entertaining in other facets of the board.