Thor vs Henshaw??
ThunderGod 6.5 times outta ten.
Henshaw isn't as durable as Superman.
Isn't as powerful as Superman.
Superman isn't as powerful as Thor.
Should be, could be, but isn't as shown.
Any energy used, will be absorbed and reflected times ten.
Thor isn't as durable as Superman, due to not having a forcefield of such high quality.
But (imo!!) his damage soak outpaces Superman by a fair bit.
And Thor has been in the sun with little problems.
Talked to his brother Atum with no trouble.
Taken attacks from Celestials.
And can be a beast with the godblast.
Anti-Force blasts and the rest of the hammer tricks??
A good charged hammer throw, would wreck Cyborg.
And the OE he took wasn't as full power.
Darkseid explicitly stated later that he was then at fullpower and the farce would end.
Cyborg is good.
And he did take over his portion of the Source Wall iirc.
But the guy is a loser.
And has he ever shown speedblitz capabilities?? OR is it just assumed??
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Considering the fact that Thor's speed has never been outright stated and/or defined, it's ok to consider this feat as a high showing.In this fight The executioner states that he blast with an attack that was equivalent to that of an exploding sun(first scan). Thor stands up unharmed shortly afterwards.
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/journeyintomystery103134jj.jpgConsidering the fact that lightning is 5x hotter than the surface of the sun, and Thor has shown the ability to increase his lightnings power by 10,000 fold, he does in fact control energy thats hotter than the surface of the sun.
I've done the math, Considering the fact that lightning has been calculated at 54,000 degrees and Thor has increased the power of his lightning by 10,000 folds. Thors lightning has reached 540,000,000 degrees. Thats a bit more than the temperature of the Sun my friend 😉
Not bad. It's from the era of comics where Superman could vibrate people to other dimensions though. That still pales next to light speed but at least it's an example.
Lightning is 6 times hotter than the surface of the Sun at heat up to 54,000 degrees Fehrenheit. The core of the sun is 27 million degrees Farenheit.
Standard Supes HV is hotter than the Sun and Borg can improve on it with kryptonian or apokaliptan tech.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor vs Henshaw??[QUOTE=7179446]Originally posted by UniOmni
[B]ThunderGod 6.5 times outta ten.
Definitely your opinion. I'd say 7/10 Cyborg. Speed, versatility and virtual immortality kills.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Henshaw isn't as durable as Superman.Isn't as powerful as Superman.
Superman isn't as powerful as Thor.
If you destroyed Supermans or Thors body they can instantly come back or reform? That's part of durability. Superman himself has claimed that Borgs cyber half can be indestructable...and borg isn't always in half superman/half borg mode either. He took an atomizing blast without any issue whatsoever...barely a hair out of place.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Any energy used, will be absorbed and reflected times ten.
Way to ignore the speed advantage, multiple bodies, computer like intelligence, the fact that he can become the environment...etc. Thor would never get the chance realistically.
Who said Cyborg would stand still and fire energy blasts anyway? He could do it while punching easily.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor isn't as durable as Superman, due to not having a forcefield of such high quality.
But (imo!!) his damage soak outpaces Superman by a fair bit.
Because Thor Ko'd Supes with one punch? My bad, I read the wrong comic. Superman is hurt by bullets? Never in my book...
Originally posted by UniOmni
And Thor has been in the sun with little problems.
Talked to his brother Atum with no trouble.
A magical castle, hardly the real thing. Show me Thor standing on the sun itself or fighting in the sun without being in a magical castle.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Taken attacks from Celestials.And can be a beast with the godblast.
That's nice, but a celestial would beat either Borg or Thor easily if it really wanted to. Godblast is nice, but Borg once again has tons of ways to defeat Thor since the guy is a living weapon.
Originally posted by UniOmni
A good charged hammer throw, would wreck Cyborg.
A good punch would wreck Thor, especially one that inserts nanoprobes into his body and takes it over.
Originally posted by UniOmni
And the OE he took wasn't as full power.Darkseid explicitly stated later that he was then at fullpower and the farce would end.
So DS was recovered and in good health but that doesn't count...and someone a FULLY powered Omega beam is supposed to mean Borg is weak?
Originally posted by UniOmni
Cyborg is good.
And he did take over his portion of the Source Wall iirc.
But the guy is a loser.
Like all villians. Doom is a loser too, as is Magneto, Lex, Thanos, Lucifer, Beyonder, etc. Damn those heroes winning!
From now on I'll automatically vote against all villains because they lose even when having ultimate power! Yep. Damn them!
Originally posted by UniOmni
And has he ever shown speedblitz capabilities?? OR is it just assumed??
He has all of Supermans capabilities enhanced by cybernetics and a computer like mind. He travels the universe easily like Surfer does. Do you honestly believe he would be slow?
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Not bad. It's from the era of comics where Superman could vibrate people to other dimensions though. That still pales next to light speed but at least it's an example.Lightning is 6 times hotter than the surface of the Sun at heat up to 54,000 degrees Fehrenheit. The core of the sun is 27 million degrees Farenheit.
Standard Supes HV is hotter than the Sun and Borg can improve on it with kryptonian or apokaliptan tech.
It's from an era that was never retconned, Dc's was.
Ok it's 27 million degrees, which isn't hotter than the 540,000,000 Thor's is able to generate.
Thor's lightning is hotter than the Sun, and that not even counting the "pure lightning" he's able to generate. 😉
BTW Thor can absorb energy, so HV would be pointless. As would tech since it can be short circuited or incinerated with the lightning Thor's able to generate.
However Thor would still end up on the losing end of this one.(I think)
Originally posted by Soujaboy
It's from an era that was never retconned, Dc's was.😐Ok it's 27 million degrees, which isn't hotter than the 540,000,000 Thor's is able to generate.
Thor's lightning is hotter than the Sun, and that not even counting the "pure lightning" he's able to generate. 😉
BTW Thor can absorb energy, so HV would be pointless. As would tech since it can be short circuited or incinerated with the lightning Thor's able to generate.
Infinite crisis made a LOT of things canon again.
10,000 times is hyperbole. If you really want to go that route then Superman/Cyborgs HV is immeasurable.
Once again, Borg can be in multiple instantly adaptable bodies and even become the environment. Thor isn't absorbing anything but punishment.
I suspect an "atomizing" blast is more powerful than any lightning and Thor is still vulnerable to tech. No way Thor is immune to Kryptonian or Apokolips weapons.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Infinite crisis made a LOT of things canon again.10,000 times is hyperbole. If you really want to go that route then Superman/Cyborgs HV is immeasurable.
Once again, Borg can be in multiple instantly adaptable bodies and even become the environment. Thor isn't absorbing anything but punishment.
I suspect an "atomizing" blast is more powerful than any lightning and Thor is still vulnerable to tech. No way Thor is immune to Kryptonian or Apokolips weapons.
So is Pre Crisis Superman cannon again?
Could be could be not, who's to say?(love that saying) all I know is in Thor #421 it was stated that Thor has the power to increase the effectiveness of his lightning by 10,000 folds. It was actually stated that it's not only lightning that he can increase the effectiveness of, but he's able to magnify just about any other energy several times over. On panel, when fighting Ego Thor magnified his lightning 100 folds, and proceeded by blast him with it.
Thor has been shown to absorb a blast that would have destroyed a 5th of the universe, so I think he may be able to absorb a good number of Cyborgs attacks.
Thor may not be immune to tech, but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of countering it. For example, In Avengers #171 Thor absorbed Ultron’s entire energy source with just a single blast from Mjolnir, and in Thor #288 Thor absorbed the Electromagnetic energies of the Celestial Mother-ship with relative ease. These aren't the only moments in his history that he's countered tech, so I think he may be able to do it in this fight.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
So is Pre Crisis Superman cannon again?Could be could be not, who's to say?(love that saying) all I know is in Thor #421 it was stated that Thor has the power to increase the effectiveness of his lightning by 10,000 folds. It was actually stated that it's not only lightning that he can increase the effectiveness of, but he's able to magnify just about any other energy several times over. On panel, when fighting Ego Thor magnified his lightning 100 folds, and proceeded by blast him with it.
Thor has been shown to absorb a blast that would have destroyed a 5th of the universe, so I think he may be able to absorb a good number of Cyborgs attacks.
Thor may not be immune to tech, but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of countering it. For example, In Avengers #171 Thor absorbed Ultron’s entire energy source with just a single blast from Mjolnir, and in Thor #288 Thor absorbed the Electromagnetic energies of the Celestial Mother-ship with relative ease. These aren't the only moments in his history that he's countered tech, so I think he may be able to do it in this fight.
Borgs tech seems to be powered simply by his will. Nothing of a power source has ever been shown or mentioned. He's made bodies as powerful as superman's instantly from childrens toys, no batteries or sunlight required. 🙂
It would be hard to counter nanoprobes as well.
Originally posted by leonidas
a case COULD be made that thor could absorb hank's consciousness into his hammer. he's absorbed life force on at least 2 different occasions.this is a tough call . . . maybe 50/50 . . .
Agreed. I've thought about this before actually.
It's definitely debateable whether to if it could be done. After all, this is the same guy who's consciousness was put into the source wall and instead of being trapped there like rest of the impossibly powerful beings...he starts to possess it!!
I'll stop there, I wouldn't want to give any tourney people ideas for or against either character.
😛
Originally posted by batdude123
I take it you haven't read it then. 🙄 Before that, they had a HUGE brawl with one another. Then, after both were fatigued, Superman smacked him through a wall and Thor was KO'd.
Originally posted by batdude123
No, get your facts straight. 🙄 It is canon for Marvel as well.
Why is it so clearly cannon for Marvel??
It hasn't been referenced in comic continuity, and thats always been the measuring stick for canon issues.
Cuz DC made it canon, doesn't mean that it automatically extends to Marvel as well.
