Cyborg vs Classic Thor

Originally posted by K3VIL
Am I drunk, or this is Thor traveling faster than lightspeed?

And it seems he can tought and act like moving at such speeds is no problem for him.

Null Bomb= Engine able to destroy a galaxy.Thor absorb its energy and then use it to revive a whole SUN.

Come on Avalon, BRING IT ON.

Surely.Take your mighty anti-thor spray and save the day

THESE are your proof? Dragging behind the hammer? Where is what I asked for? The maneuverability, or Thors h2h? Don't make me laugh.

These do nothing against multiple bodies, becoming the environment, controlling all tech on earth, knowledge of godly and kryptonian tech, a base form as strong as Superman that can be modified and upgraded on the fly...etc.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You should stop posting copying and pasting that bio. Jut debate, dont copy and paste.

Well said. He's great at posting bio's isn't he?

Originally posted by Juntai
Thor dragging behind the hammer at lightspeed in a straightline isnt going to help him in combat.

According to many, losing to Superman means you lose to half of Marvel.
Cyborg's given Superman a hell of a lot more challenge on panel than Thor ever did....but you know...they ignore that.

Somehow Cyborg fighting both a motherbox enhanced Supes and Darkseid is considered a "weak" showing now. A full powered Omega effect taking you out now means Thors victory!

Originally posted by K3VIL
No jerk off fanboy has ever owned me, batboy 123.
[QUOTE=7179170]Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
[B]Is this comedy hour? First Thor attacking at FTL speed while flying with his hammer. Pure comedy gold. Since when does Thor have the maneuverability of Surfer, Superman, GL, Cyborg while flying? Never.
Please please shoot some anti matter... the same stuff that powered superboy prime and wouldn't be a problem for a kryptonian cyborg.
Flying, moving, fighting...ect. You really believe Thor is a FTL character because of his hammer? Null point.
10) SPEED: A) Thor could throw the hammer at the speed of light. See Thor#140, Thor#274; and, or can swing the hammer at TWICE the speed of light- Journey Into Mystery#102. B) In Thor -#393- it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer TRANSCENDS both TIME & SPACE. C) Also, Thor could appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds (see- FF#339, and Thor#166). D) In addition, Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happen when Thor was the target of artillery fire- see Invaders#33- and Avengers-#281- when he saw the speedy Hermes). E) In the early issues of Journey Into Mystery, there were instances that Thor used Super-Human speed, physically speaking-that is. However, it’s impossible to measure his speed based on those depictions. However, in Marvel Team-up#26, it gives a slight more accurate description on Thor’s Super-Human speed, and you could make a similar case in Invaders-#33, where Thor (with his hammer) deflected artillery bullets fired at him by moving his ENITRE LEFT ARM at super-Human speed. Specifically, in Marvel Team Up-#26, the writer makes it fundamentally clear that Thor can move almost faster than mere MORTAL eyes can follow, and in Thor-#354,

You ruined my beautiful post with this incoherent babble?

😂

Poor Avalon.
You are so turned on from Henshaw you don't seem to read the answers.
Thor can drag himself FTL, and react, do you understand?
Just like Flash has reaction times on the level of speed he can achieve, same is for Thor.Flying at such speeds without being able to do anything would make Thor's fly useless.It's been showed in comics plenty times he can change direction while he's already flying, even his son, Magni, a rookie at using the hammer could do that.
Do you want H2H skill showing?
You got em':
Here is Thor owning both Loki and Fenris who were carrying replicas of Mjolnir, meaning they are powered up to further levels from their hammers.
[img=http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2982/thorsmashlokiandfenris2vf9.jpg]
[img=http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1193/thorsmashlokiandfenrisua4.jpg]
And Thor's hammer was broken, he did it on his own.
Here are more showings of his fighting skills while in his depowered mortal form.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=369118&perpage=20&highlight=mighty+thor+forumid%3A95&pagenumber=7

Here is Thor removing the godly energies of another god

Here is Marduk's Bio

Your post would of been much better if your scans worked....😐

Thor VS Loki and Fenris

Mortal Thor fighting skills(scroll down near the end of the page)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=369118&perpage=20&highlight=mighty+thor+forumid%3A95&pagenumber=7

Thor VS Adam Warlock with Soul Gem and Silver Surfer

Thor unleashes cosmic energies, smack down his two foes really bad and manage to resist the karmic blast of Warlock's Soul Gem, leaving Adam scared.Also Warlock makes statements of his incredible reaction times and physical might.

Were giving Thor a bad name in this thread......

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Were giving Thor a bad name in this thread......

Originally posted by Skeets
Nah,that's Avalon...😂

Nah Thats *coughk3vilcough*

No offense, but thats how I see it.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Were giving Thor a bad name in this thread......

Originally posted by K3VIL
Actually I'm posting many proof of what Avalon believes to be mere myths about Thor's abilities.
Now he got scans, what he's going to say, they are fanmade?
He say Henshaw is outta Thor league.
Actually Marduk was like a Thor powered with the Odin Force, less powerful than him, but still on skyfather ranking, and got his powers removed.

It's all right, I don't mind much. Just gives me more work trying to give Thor his credibility back😬

Originally posted by Soujaboy
It's all right, I don't mind much. Just gives me more work trying to give Thor his credibility back😬

😆 Fanboy war !

Originally posted by K3VIL
And since when did I ruined his credibility?
All the facts is reported from his power's list and the scans are already knowed but most of us here.And in all the scans is proved that Avalon is wrong about Thor's abilities and skills

That not the point. Your debating in a way that some view as the way of a fanboy, thus they discredit your arguments. I don't no why, but you'll have to fight to get your credibility back.😬

Originally posted by Soujaboy
That not the point. Your debating in a way that some view as the way of a fanboy, thus they discredit your arguments. I don't no why, but you'll have to fight to get your credibility back.😬

Originally posted by K3VIL
Poor Avalon.
You are so turned on from Henshaw you don't seem to read the answers.
Thor can drag himself FTL, and react, do you understand?
Just like Flash has reaction times on the level of speed he can achieve, same is for Thor.Flying at such speeds without being able to do anything would make Thor's fly useless.It's been showed in comics plenty times he can change direction while he's already flying, even his son, Magni, a rookie at using the hammer could do that.
Do you want H2H skill showing?
You got em':
Here is Thor owning both Loki and Fenris who were carrying replicas of Mjolnir, meaning they are powered up to further levels from their hammers.
[img=http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2982/thorsmashlokiandfenris2vf9.jpg]
[img=http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1193/thorsmashlokiandfenrisua4.jpg]
And Thor's hammer was broken, he did it on his own.
Here are more showings of his fighting skills while in his depowered mortal form.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=369118&perpage=20&highlight=mighty+thor+forumid%3A95&pagenumber=7

Here is Thor removing the godly energies of another god

Here is Marduk's Bio

Great. You said it yourself... Thor is DRAGGING behind his hammer. Scans that don't work. Priceless!

Originally posted by K3VIL
As I stated in the Superman VS Thor thread, I do not put Thor victorious in the fight for a matter of my own personal choices, but for a matter of using the powersets at his disposal in the best way he can, like he showed when he subdued Warlock and Surfer, and like he showed in many of the feats in his respec thread.I do not disrespect Henshaw, but from how Avalon portrays him he's the uber alles of the DCU.
Everyone today can survive an encounter with Darkseid's avatars and their Omega Beams.Even Batman.Henshaw did good, he absorbed Apokolips technology and became a huge robot, but before he did it, it took ONE full force blast of Heat Vision from Supes, to smash him through a wall, and make him absorbing machinery to reform himself.
Now, Heat Vision is less powerful than Anti Matter, Anti Force, GodForce, and Cosmic Energy.It's been stated that Supes could deflect the Omega Effect thank to enhacements from the Source, Darkseid admitted that.
So, to me, Henshaw isn't going to stomp Thor like Avalon assume.The nearest sources of hi-tech devices are Baxter Building, Avengers Mansion, Stark Enterprises.The problem is he's not getting there with Thor just looking at him flying away like he doesn't care.And also, he's not getting into let's say, the BB considering Reed's defensive devices have proved to be very powerful, he's one of the top intellects in the Marvel Universe.If an Henshaw which rebuilt himself with Apokolips technology can be harmed from full force heat vision like happened in Hunter/Prey, surely Thor's powers can.And Superman didn't speedblitzed him or something like that.Just blasted him.Period.
Why Thor can't?

More comedy! 😆

Kev, I understand you lust after the golden fabio like locks of the thunder god, but this is ridiculous. Surely you don't think Thor is taking the majority especially on EARTH right?

You know...earth where there are cellphones, computers, weapons, satellites, raw minerals aplenty around nearly every corner?

Then your ridiculous claims that Reeds devices cannot be overcome by borg? It would be childs play. Not even a minutes worth of effort.

I find it even funnier how you think Thor can hurt Borg, but you don't seem to think Borg can hurt Thor. Of the 2, Thor is the weaker physically. Mjolnir is his saving grace, but alas, he would never really get to use it.

Nice try at downplaying full powered omega beams, if you want to play games like that then Thor struggles with buidlings and bullets.

I'll happily take my "low" point over yours. 🙂

I don't get what is so hard to understand about Thor not being immune to either tech or an enhanced Superman.

And Thor isn't as fast as you'd like him to be. Take off the fanboy goggles. When Gladiator was using speed, Thor was bewildered...remember when he punted Mjolnir? Or maybe you forgot about Juggy beating that ass? You know..juggy, the slow slow guy with none of borgs versatility? Maybe when Count Nefaria caught Mjolnir while Thor was spinning it?

Does it need to be broken down Barney style for you to "get" it?

It would be ridiculously easy for Borg to simply do this to Thor. Apparently he isn't immune to pain and Mjolnir sure didn't get him out of this one...

Speaking of low showings, which most characters have, why you didn't answered to this question:
Superman destroyed Henshaw body which he rebuilt with his knowledge of Kryptonian DNA and the Exo-Armor of Darkseid Royal Guards.
A full blast of heat vision forced Henshaw to rebuilt himself.
Thor's energy attacks are above heat vision.He can indeed destroy his enemy.You say he'll rebuilt?He can still be, banished to another dimension, or stripped of his energy, cause consider this, Cyborg's mechanical side is powered by some energy source, and rarely Thor couldn't absorb energy from other beings or attacks, as I showed you he can strip a god above his level of almost all his power.
And speaking about the flight, do you understand he can change direction while flying?
Change direction:
When you direct yourself from a point to another.Is it that hard to understand?
And speaking about the godly SPEEDBLITZ, usually Henshaw talk about his superior being half machine and then use his powers, which work very well if you cannot counter them, but let's say, he begin to absorb machinery here and there.
Is he going to do it with a storm powered by cosmic energy which will rip apart most things?And You showed me Thor held by Kree technology, well, didn't Superman got slowed from Lex Luthor's armored soldier when they attacked Cadmus with Luthor near to death cause of the clones disease?Their man made weapons, not powered by any kryptonite or other of his weaknesses, did actually HURTED him.
So now, speaking of low showings, if an energy blast from an armored mercenary can hurt him, you still believe Thor is the one here who can be subdued with ease?
Henshaw's cyber abilities are great, but except for the scan with the Kree handcuffs, which like the Superman occasion can be stated as crap writing, I do not see a concrete proof.I could list low showings here too, and that wouldn't mean Cyborg Supes is weak.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Speaking of low showings, which most characters have, why you didn't answered to this question:
Superman destroyed Henshaw body which he rebuilt with his knowledge of Kryptonian DNA and the Exo-Armor of Darkseid Royal Guards.
A full blast of heat vision forced Henshaw to rebuilt himself.

That's a bad example. For one, he's battling both Superman and Darkseid. Superman surprises Henshaw and puts him in the path of Omega beams. The beams are so powerful that Supermans arms are burning and he's not even the target. Henshaw is then blasted by full heat vision and by that time Darkseid is at "peak" power who then blasts him with his Omega beams at full force.

During all this Henshaw is fighting, talking, and rebuilding effortlessly without signs of fatigue. If not for the fully powered omega beams, he could have gone on forever.

Thor would not have fared any better against those 2.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Thor's energy attacks are above heat vision.He can indeed destroy his enemy.You say he'll rebuilt?He can still be, banished to another dimension, or stripped of his energy, cause consider this, Cyborg's mechanical side is powered by some energy source, and rarely Thor couldn't absorb energy from other beings or attacks, as I showed you he can strip a god above his level of almost all his power.

Here is what you don't seem to get. Cyborg has and can create weapons that can kill Thor. From simple stabbing weapons to beams, nanoprobes, and sonics... Borg is extremely adaptable. He can launch EVERY weapon on earth against Thor effortlessly while chillin' in somebodies celly or in a satellite or have every piece of electronics start turning into clone bodies and attack Thor.

Originally posted by K3VIL
And speaking about the flight, do you understand he can change direction while flying?
Change direction:
When you direct yourself from a point to another.Is it that hard to understand?
And speaking about the godly SPEEDBLITZ, usually Henshaw talk about his superior being half machine and then use his powers, which work very well if you cannot counter them, but let's say, he begin to absorb machinery here and there.
Is he going to do it with a storm powered by cosmic energy which will rip apart most things?

1st flaw with this theory. Borg is not just going to stand there while Thor conjurs up storms. You are assuming Thor has time to do this while he is being attacked by weapons designed to kill him, multiple versions of borg with mind controlling nanoprobes, and Borg's intelligence spreading across every piece of machinery on earth?

2nd flaw with this is...Cyborg has survived black holes, atomizing blasts, a bloodlusted parallax, and back to back HV and Omega effects. He's either been unaffected, or rebuilt instantly. By the way, Borg can absorb energy as well.

Originally posted by K3VIL
And You showed me Thor held by Kree technology, well, didn't Superman got slowed from Lex Luthor's armored soldier when they attacked Cadmus with Luthor near to death cause of the clones disease?Their man made weapons, not powered by any kryptonite or other of his weaknesses, did actually HURTED him.
So now, speaking of low showings, if an energy blast from an armored mercenary can hurt him, you still believe Thor is the one here who can be subdued with ease?

Agreed. Low showings happen in ALL comics. However, unlike Superman and Thor, Cyborg can adapt to his environment and instantly make whatever changes are necessary. He also remembers everything precisely from birth till present including all weapons and tech of the many planets and cultures he's visited/assimilated...including Apokolips with their godlike weapons and tech.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Henshaw's cyber abilities are great, but except for the scan with the Kree handcuffs, which like the Superman occasion can be stated as crap writing, I do not see a concrete proof.I could list low showings here too, and that wouldn't mean Cyborg Supes is weak.

I think it's just fine for proof. Add to that that he's owned Eradicator who's at the very least as durable as Thor himself and it's a hell of a fight. The speed, accuracy, shafe shifting, multiplying, total mastery of all machines, matter manipulation, Superman and above durability..etc of Borg is too much.

Doesn't make Thor weak or give Cyborg 10/10, but it simply means Borg has the right combination of abilities to handle Thor.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
This is Henshaw vs Classic Thor.

For this fight Cyborg Supes is not wielding any of the GL rings. Thor has MJOLNIR and is in his classic non-RKT/KT version.

They fight in Central Park New York. No BFR. Bloodlust for both characters.

Discuss.

Is this meant to be a joke? Cyborg against a Mjolnir wielding God of storms? If Thor really wanted to kill, he would simply absorb Cyborg's energy and leave nothing behind but a dead husk. Against far more powerful beings than Cyborg superman, such as Warlock and Surfer, or Drax with the Power Gem, Thor beat their skulls in with little effort. Thor not holding back is far beyond any of these characters. Cyborg is not much different from the Herald of Galactus named Air Walker except Cyborg supes doesnt have the power cosmic.