God Sends "Good" People to Hell

Started by Soleran14 pages
Originally posted by Lumanix
Why do you believe in something that was created by a race with an inherent affinity to embellish, lie, and commit sin?

Why would you not?

Originally posted by Soleran
Why would you not?

Cause the probability that people that generally lie, lie about the thing I am supposed to believe in is high. That's just logical. Then again you probably don't subscribe to the concept of logic.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Because there is only one True God.
Possibly, though not what you may think.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Cause the probability that people that generally lie, lie about the thing I am supposed to believe in is high. That's just logical. Then again you probably don't subscribe to the concept of logic.

So did someone lie to you about what you believe in today? I mean if what you said is true there is a high probability of that.

Originally posted by Soleran
So did someone lie to you about what you believe in today? I mean if what you said is true there is a high probability of that.

What I beleive today I believe because I gave it thought. (my own thought)

People that tell me things don't generally lie. At least I believe they don't.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What I beleive today I believe because I gave it thought. (my own thought)

People that tell me things don't generally lie. At least I believe they don't.

So its limited to your own perception, and perception is reality so...........................what if someone perceives something different how wrong are they?

Originally posted by Soleran
So its limited to your own perception, and perception is reality so...........................what if someone perceives something different how wrong are they?
Yes, yes.........it is a persons perception...........very much so........and with that comes knowledge.

Originally posted by Soleran
So its limited to your own perception, and perception is reality so...........................what if someone perceives something different how wrong are they?

Perception is reality? Haha. What bullshit.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Perception is reality? Haha. What bullshit.

Who's, yours?

Originally posted by Soleran
Who's, yours?

"Who's, yours?"

That does not make any sense. No seriously, I know the English language, what you just said doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Perception is reality? Haha. What bullshit.
No, knowledge = wisdom............. 🙂

Perception is part of it also...............yes?

Originally posted by Lumanix
Why do you believe in something that was created by a race with an inherent affinity to embellish, lie, and commit sin?

Why do you believe the way that you do? Why did you believe that you could walk? Because you stepped out in faith. Why did you believe that you could right a bike, skateboard or whatever? Because you stepped out on faith. Why did you believe that you could drive a car? Because you stepped out one day on faith and did it. Everything that you did for the first time, you did in faith believing that you could do it. It was faith because up to that time you hadn't experienced walking, riding, skateboarding, or driving before. You had to originally step out on faith in all things until you became proficient at it. Now those things are like second nature to you. Well, I didn't know that the Bible was/is true (or rather the sum total of Truth) until I stepped "first" out in faith. The moment that I resolved to believe God and to trust His Word--instantly God gave me the faith to believe. The blindness was removed from my mind and the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ Who is the image of God began to shine in my heart. I had become born again. I now had Eternal Life abiding on the inside of me (in my spirit/heart). The Person revealed throughout the pages of Scripture revealed Himself to me and confirmed in my soul that He lives, is real, true, and exists forevermore. Jesus Christ is REAL! More real than the air that you breathe. The Son of God will reveal Himself to as many as call upon His holy, indescribable, priceless, matchless Name.

John 15:13
Greater love has no one than this , than to lay down one’s life for his friends.

Originally posted by debbiejo
No, knowledge = wisdom............. 🙂

Perception is part of it also...............yes?

Knowledge
Wisdom

Check them out, they are not the same.

Originally posted by Bardock42
"Who's, yours?"

That does not make any sense. No seriously, I know the English language, what you just said doesn't make any sense.

You are a smart guy so I am not going to spell it out for you it would take away from the learning curve.

Needless to say your reality holds no more value then anyone else's which might be different from the get go.

Call it a life philosophy, crap is this in the wrong forum now?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Knowledge
Wisdom

Check them out, they are not the same.

Throw out that dictionary...........to have wisdom, you first must have some knowledge..............right?

though some are born with some great benefits of facts on knowledge,.......Where does it come from..........not mans words.

Originally posted by Soleran
You are a smart guy so I am not going to spell it out for you it would take away from the learning curve.

Needless to say your reality holds no more value then anyone else's which might be different from the get go.

Call it a life philosophy, crap is this in the wrong forum now?

Actually my philosophy might hold more truth than theirs. Just as theirs might hold more truth than mine. What seems to be a fact is that my philosophy does not harm any person, while theirs (coupled with their behaviour) does.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Throw out that dictionary...........to have wisdom, you first must have some knowledge..............right?

though some are born with some great benefits of facts on knowledge,.......Where does it come from..........not mans words.

Shut up.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Arthur Eddington (astrophysicist): "The idea of a universal mind or Logos would be, I think, a fairly plausible inference from the present state of scientific theory." (9

Gasp! point number (9) confirms the Bible. Astrophysicist Arthur Eddington used the word "Logos" in reference to the Creator. The Bible says in John 1:1,

[b]John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The word "Logos" (the same word that the astrophysicist used) is a Greek word that has been rendered as or translated "Word" in the above verse of Scripture. All scholars agree that it is a reference to Jesus Christ in eternity past (before He became "flesh"😉. Amazing! [/B]


Now... This is something I can really bite into. I will now state the charges against you.

1. Logos can also be translated as "Knowledge" or "Intellect", And was used in the context of godlyness FAR before Jesus, by a HOST of greek philosophers to aply to a metaphysical abstraction. Amazing!

2. Not all scholars beleive it. If even one scholar doesn't beleive it, then the phrais "All" becomes a lie. And guess what? I can find numerous scholars who don't beleive that. Amazing!

3. Arthur Eddington in refering to a metaphysical abstraction. He did not say "God" or "Jesus", he said things like "Universal Mind" And "Logos" (Which was often used in metaphysics of 400-600 B.C. to describe a universal inteeligence). It's CERTAINLY not refering to the God of any specific religion. Amazing!

Originally posted by Bardock42
Shut up.
You know you find my words intriguing.........LOL

hug

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually my philosophy might hold more truth than theirs. Just as theirs might hold more truth than mine. What seems to be a fact is that my philosophy does not harm any person, while theirs (coupled with their behaviour) does.

How does their behaviour really hurt you, I mean SOME muslims and SOME christians but overall not so much, the same can be said about anyone you can GROUP together though.

Originally posted by Soleran
How does their behaviour really hurt you, I mean SOME muslims and SOME christians but overall not so much, the same can be said about anyone you can GROUP together though.

Which is why I don't hate Christianity on a whole..as long as they keep their religion to themselves or only use their right of Freedom of Speech I am fine with them, absolutely, anything that goes beyond that not. I don't want to be forced to think different, just as I don't force them to think different.