Originally posted by Validus
Of course he does that stuff in his own series. Just not nearly as well. If he did Gotham would be a utopia. Come on, he can stop herald level guys in a few panels over in JLA but "Hush" is a 12 issue arc of Batman?
I've always wondered why Batman hasn't taken down every crook in Gotham. hmm He certainly has the brains, and he certainly has the resources for it. It's just to keep his comics going.
Inhumans : Medusa. Elastic hair? 🤨
Runaways: Chase
Young Avengers: Patriot. He's a poor fighter and he gets hurt all the time. Hawkeye is a far better fighter and her arrows are much more useful than shield that can't even take a laser blast. PLUS, she's the financial backing of the teams. She's rich. Patriot is poor...
Alpha Flight: Puck
Excalibur: Pete Wisdom. Hot knives?! Nocturne's possession power is an infamous last-resort tactic that has saved the Exiles' asses numerous times.
JSA - Wildcat. Dr. Mid-Nite is the surgeon who can save your ass when Solomon Grundy has ripped out your guts...
Thunderbolts - Blizzard
Birds of Prey - Huntress
Noone cares about Aquaman...until he summons the largest army on Earth.
Seriously Atlantis is the premier of magic on DC Earth and its vast resources far outstrip any other Leaguers except of WW and Green Lantern.
Batman's rich? Arthur's ten times richer. He has alchemists that makes gold out of seashells for him....
Originally posted by TheKahn
Astonishing X-Men - ShadowcatFantastic Four - The Human Torch. Any offensive firepower he brings to the fight could be accounted for by Reed with a little prep
The original JLA - Aquaman
The Authority - Swift
New Avengers - Luke Cage
Teen Titans (before Infinite Crisis) - Speedy
Shadowcat is definitely the most useful with Emma Frost following
Like when the Nega-Sentinel was about to nuke the team. Wolverine couldn't save them
Originally posted by Draco69
Shadowcat is definitely the most useful with Emma Frost followingLike when the Nega-Sentinel was about to nuke the team. Wolverine couldn't save them
I didn't mean to suggest that Kitty isn't useful at all. I was thinking more along the lines of who helps to round out the team overall and would allow them to deal with most threats.
Cyke- leader and offensive powerhouse
Emma- telepath
Beast- medical and tech
Colossus- super-strong brick
And I had a toss up between Kitty and Wolvie. The reason Wolverine got the slight edge is that I though his covert intelligence and military training/contacts might be more helpful as well as the fact that Marvel has now seemed to decided the hairy runt in indestructible. 😬
Originally posted by Draco69
Noone cares about Aquaman...until he summons the largest army on Earth.Seriously Atlantis is the premier of magic on DC Earth and its vast resources far outstrip any other Leaguers except of WW and Green Lantern.
Batman's rich? Arthur's ten times richer. He has alchemists that makes gold out of seashells for him....
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Fail safes that were stolen and almost ended up killing them all.Yeah... That's re---al useful.
Yeah, they kicked him off the team for it. But guess what? They couldn't have Batman be off the team for long. They made him a member again. And it's usefull if one of them goes insane, or double crosses the league.
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Which admittedly, does happen quite often.Still, J'onn could easily come up with fail safes for the team. That would be more effective, and more sfae IMO.
How? The JLA have expressed their dependency on him MANY times. Even J'onn has admitted so. My point is Batman has his place.
Originally posted by Draco69
Canonically? Yes.Logically and realistically taking account all the characters' abilities? No.
He's on the JLA because he's Batman.
I agree that in some terms of intellect, they don't need him. But as a strategizer and as a detective? Even J'onn has admitted they need him in those departments.
Originally posted by batdude123
I agree that in some terms of intellect, they don't need him. But as a strategizer and as a detective? Even J'onn has admitted they need him in those departments.
Strategically? Eh. Diana's a cream of the crop strategy general. She's an Amazon after all. War is their picnic. And Martian Manhunter spent centuries at war as a general against White Martians and the like.
Detective? Batman is useful for his resources on crime. But they can always just call him up if they need him.
They spend more time fighting a giant hell-demon threatening the solar system. Not supercriminals they could fight by themselves.