Abraxas vs the Phoenix force

Continues...

So now I understand why this joker says, "if you want IT to GROW a New FUTURE to replace the one you cut away"

He also says, "And they said I was to tell you to HURRY"

Implying she can't do this AT WILL, but with in a TIME LIMIT.

He also says, "If it was me, I'd let it DIE"

I was fooled into believing he was talking about the Orphan Universe", but in fact he's talking about the Future Phoenix wants to replace it with.

So Phoenix decides to give it a different Future, so that Henry's heart won't be broken, and Scott does not succumb to loneliness", ect..ect..

"Live Scott"

Now how did she do that?...How did Phoenix ALTER the Future?

Did she snap her fingers and it happened?...NO

Did she think it and it happened?...NO

Did she speak it into happening?...NO

She actually went to the past and forced Scott to be with Emma


In order to prevent the events of "Here comes tomorrow"

A little Mind control, some Time travel, and you can Alter the Future too.

No more Phoenix reforming Universes in the hand claims. Thank you.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix saved Galens previous reality from eternal damnation. As the previous multiverse was being wiped out by the M'kraan crystal Phoenix saved all life in a previous universe from the Dwellers plans and that meant that she saved Galens life. Galen survived to make it to the cosmic egg, where he was gestated within until the new universe cycle was initiated by Phoenix and Galen was reborn as Galactus along with the abstracts. So i stand by my previous comment as it was correct.

sleep1

You were warned.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenixes actions enabled Eternity to preserve Galen.

Not on panel.

I'll give you both accounts that have been depicted ON PANEL.

If you can find me just ONE comic where this is drawn, I'll agree with you, but since I know your basing this idea on bios or handbooks I know you can't.

Tell me where if anywhere does it mention Phoenix supposedly "enabling Galen to incubate in the Cosmic Egg"....how about even JUST Saving Galactus...This is the SECOND time they depicted Galactus's Origin On Panel.

And this is the ORIGINAL depiction of Galactus's ORIGIN.

See anything different?

Yea me neither.

Look hard...and realize Phoenix is NOT even mentioned during the Galactus history lesson.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Eternity marks Phoenix as the perpetuator of the creation cycle. The power that starts it off and the power that ends it. As we have seen throughout this thread there is precedence for that. You are not arguing that Phoenix is the power behind the Big Bang, but youre arguing that the Big Bang isnt OF Phoenix? 🤨 Get the hell outta here you confused youngster 😂
Yes the Celestials seeded the universe with the potential and yes it is humanity that actually replaces the abstracts but that is besides the point. It is all a hats
So all in all, this endless waffling about no mention of Phoenix is irrelevant when the Phoenix is marked out on multiple occasions in the title as the perpetuator of the creation cycle, the driving force of evolution and the power which makes the replacement process possible. Please understand that son.

That will be all.

😴

So others to not become confused by your babbling.

let me break it down for you.

Scan 1:
Here Eternity is explaining to Jean how the Universe works and how it has lead to us....Already proved this many times over...Phoenix is the SPARK that ignites the natural Big Bang of a Universe, which ends life and begins life in said Universe.

Phoenix is NOT the Big Bang and the scan clearly tells us the Celestials SEEDED the Universe with Creation and the Celestial were created by Eternity.

Scan 2:
Ok, here Eternity says, "like Galactus was the sole survivor...so shall Humanity Begin the End, End the Beginning."

NOTHING about Phoenix.

"Oblivion will embrace all...creation will Renew itself"...(no need for Phoenix)
"And therein lies the Stranger's conceit"...

Ok, I'm sure you see now that Stranger wants to be able to do..what Humans will be able to do one day.
(Which is WHY they are BOWING to HIM in the scan...because one day WE (Humans) will NOT need Abstracts or even LT...they will be as NOTHING to US (Humans).

"He plans to spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos."

How does he PLAN to do that?....You said it was with the Phoenix Force Power.

But I think not.

Scan 3 & 4:
The Stranger was going to use 5 (FIVE) individuals to accomplish his "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"

Marko, Jean, Iceman, Toad, Mystique.

More Proof it was FIVE individuals the Stranger was going to use to "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"...NOT Phoenix...NOT PHOENIX AT ALL....Jean didn't even have the Phoenix Force during this time.

"To pluck FIVE representative Earthlings to SERVE as his Evolutionary Vanguards"

notworthy------------------>nono

In the end of the comic book adaptaition of the X-men tv series, they had a storyline where the M'krann crystal completely fractured and destoryed that galaxy creating the 616 universe and Galactus being the only survivor.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
How so? It shows the opinions of the writers and since we have no on panel feat of power from Galactus disputing the point, who are we to disagree?

You had the audacity to respond to this...you should of left it alone and hoped it'd be forgotten.

For this is the low point in your career.

Your using a BULLETIN on the BACK of a Comic book to debate in a vs thread.

And you had the gaul, to post the page and issue, like with confidence..

Uhrrh...this is almost beyond belief.

Go somewhere, think about it, come back, and you might be forgiven.

MrMaster,

Why do you feel the need to be such an a$$hole to people? I think you have some deep down anger issues to deal with.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Ultimate Nullifier never conclusively remade the multiverse. You have been unable to provide a single scan or statement stating or conclusively depicting it doing so, depicting it beig a multiversal power.

Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.

Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.

Finally what does this lead to?

Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was.

What was MISALIGNED?

The MULTI-VERSE!

How was this done?

Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & remake the Multiverse

UN Destroys the Multiverse

UN Remakes the Multiverse in an instant

Let's add this one again, which spells it out in plain english:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Galactus contained the fully unleashed power of an overloaded U.N:

😆

Let's say you were right...your WRONG, but let's say.

Now Galactus can take a FULL ALL consuming blast from a weapon that can ERASE the UNIVERSE, as you put it.

Galactus just went up crazy notched in my hierarchy. 😂

Originally posted by David_Richards
MrMaster,

Why do you feel the need to be such an a$$hole to people? I think you have some deep down anger issues to deal with.

bumprav

Originally posted by David_Richards
MrMaster,

Why do you feel the need to be such an a$$hole to people? I think you have some deep down anger issues to deal with.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Youre making assumptions. You dont have a clue how those Galactuses stack up in terms of power to our Galactus, you dont have a clue about the circumstances behind these killings (i.e was it with his own power, was it with aid from the Novas, were the Galactuses at full power)

sign23 blah blah

Originally posted by David_Richards
MrMaster,

Why do you feel the need to be such an a$$hole to people? I think you have some deep down anger issues to deal with.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats speculation my friend, assumption, dont treat those as fact here. Its not depicted or stated how these Reeds were being pained,

Abraxas killing every Reed Richards in the Multi-verse

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
for all we know it was alternate universe Novas

hysterical

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
With a weapon that could wipe out a universe in the blink of an eye its not surprising that he believes noone in the multiverse could stop him.

Interesting...

It can "wipe out a universe in the blink of an eye"

BUT

Galactus can contain it's FULL Power according to you 5funny

I know I've told him off for it too. And have you ever actually debated? I debated in high school and I was able to prove my case without resorting to petty insults and being rude to people. And people respected the points I brought up all the more for it.

Originally posted by galan7777777
trust me buddy GS trys to be just as harsh to mr master lol!

Apparently, that joker doesn't know that.

I'm just ignoring him since he has absolutely nothing consequential to say.

By the way, let me know when those issues come in for you.

Originally posted by David_Richards
I know I've told him off for it too. And have you ever actually debated? I debated in high school and I was able to prove me case without resorting to petty insults and being rude to people. And people respected the points I brought up all the more for it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Apparently, that joker doesn't know that.

I'm just ignoring him since he has absolutely nothing consequential to say.

By the way, let me know when those issues come in for you.

Originally posted by David_Richards
I know I've told him off for it too. And have you ever actually debated? I debated in high school and I was able to prove my case without resorting to petty insults and being rude to people. And people respected the points I brought up all the more for it.

If you read my posts in this thread I told off GS as well when he did it.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Roma said in your very own scans that Galactus' death unhinged the doors of the multiverse. From that point onwards there was talk of the multiverse being in trouble,

Now that's wierd.

I remember the Multi-verse folding since issue #46...Yes, I'm absolutely SURE it started in issue #46.

Yet Roma said that in the LAST pages of issue #48. hum

Stop relying on bios and BULLETINS on the BACK of Comic books to debate.

Originally posted by David_Richards
If you read my posts in this thread I told off GS as well when he did it.

And this is why society is so sad, I assume you also find wrestling entertaining? Why do people find violence, both physical and verbal so amusing? This is why we can't move forward as a species.