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Well, I think you might want to realize that most people don't have any issue with the current administrations handling of the war in Iraq and US domestic security. Many people listen to sound bites and likely think Bush had something to do with JonBenet's killer being found, just because some homeland security guy in a 'what happens in vegas stays in vegas' tee shirt is escorting him home.
Originally posted by Robtard
Considering there hasn't been any successful attacks on US soil since 9/11, I'd say the US Security is a step ahead. But that is taking into consideration that terrorist attacks have been attempted, which I do not know with 100% accuracy.
The common misconception about terrorist threats to the US is that they only started in 2001. These people have been trying for years. The first world trade center attacks, 9/11. They get through, but most have been thwarted, both pre and post 9/11...so Bush's prevention record is about on par with Clintons.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
The common misconception about terrorist threats to the US is that they only started in 2001. These people have been trying for years. The first world trade center attacks, 9/11. They get through, but most have been thwarted, both pre and post 9/11...so Bush's prevention record is about on par with Clintons.
Agreed, I'm not one to label G.W. Bush as the sole savior of America. You'd be surprised though (or maybe not), I debate with many far right-wingers on another board and the general conception is that Clinton caused 9/11 through his action/inactions.
Originally posted by Robtard
Considering there hasn't been any successful attacks on US soil since 9/11, I'd say the US Security is a step ahead. But that is taking into consideration that terrorist attacks have been attempted, which I do not know with 100% accuracy.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Well, I think you might want to realize that most people don't have any issue with the current administrations handling of the war in Iraq and US domestic security. Many people listen to sound bites and likely think Bush had something to do with JonBenet's killer being found, just because some homeland security guy in a 'what happens in vegas stays in vegas' tee shirt is escorting him home.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
The common misconception about terrorist threats to the US is that they only started in 2001. These people have been trying for years. The first world trade center attacks, 9/11. They get through, but most have been thwarted, both pre and post 9/11...so Bush's prevention record is about on par with Clintons.
Originally posted by Robtard
Agreed, I'm not one to label G.W. Bush as the sole savior of America. You'd be surprised though (or maybe not), I debate with many far right-wingers on another board and the general conception is that Clinton caused 9/11 through his action/inactions.
I'm not one to label him as a savior at all....he and his policies have caused a serious destablization in the middle east and made things worse. Not that I expect some people here to agree with that.
And Clinton certainly didn't cause 9/11. But that concensus comes from the current point-the-finger-at-the-other-party for every fu*k up propoganda machine.
Terror is an illusion
''Terrorism does not exist. It is a phenomenon created by the government in order to facilitate their goal of a global fascist state with the power in the hands of an elite minority, in full control of a subservient population.
“False Flag Operations” are a technique favoured by government in accelerating these aims. A False Flag Operation is one carried out by a group or nation, either military or terrorist in nature, that is designed to conveniently implicate another group or nation. These have been used since the days of the Nazi Party when Hitler burned down his own Reichstag building and blamed the communists, allowing him to transform Germany from a democracy into a dictatorship.
In our own time they have become more commonplace since the publication of “The Project for the New American Century” in September 2000, whose contributors include members of the Bush regime such as former Deputy Secretary of Defence Paul Wolfowitz, now President of the World Bank. This document was a blueprint for Amercan-led globalisation backed by the military. On Page 51, paragraph 1 it reads: “The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.” 9/11 happened less than a year after this went to print.
Now we are experiencing more and more of these False Flags, such as the “foiled” aircraft attacks. The outcome is always the same: give up some more of your liberties and your government will “protect” you. The term “conspiracy theory” is used to damage the credibility of any argument that dares to question the official version of events. But it is only a theory if the facts do not support it; and one only has to do a little research to find the true facts for themselves. The day any of us is not allowed to ask questions of its own government is the day a dictatorship becomes a stark reality in our own time.''
Originally posted by Deano
Terror is an illusion''Terrorism does not exist. It is a phenomenon created by the government in order to facilitate their goal of a global fascist state with the power in the hands of an elite minority, in full control of a subservient population.
“False Flag Operations” are a technique favoured by government in accelerating these aims. A False Flag Operation is one carried out by a group or nation, either military or terrorist in nature, that is designed to conveniently implicate another group or nation. These have been used since the days of the Nazi Party when Hitler burned down his own Reichstag building and blamed the communists, allowing him to transform Germany from a democracy into a dictatorship.
In our own time they have become more commonplace since the publication of “The Project for the New American Century” in September 2000, whose contributors include members of the Bush regime such as former Deputy Secretary of Defence Paul Wolfowitz, now President of the World Bank. This document was a blueprint for Amercan-led globalisation backed by the military. On Page 51, paragraph 1 it reads: “The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.” 9/11 happened less than a year after this went to print.
Now we are experiencing more and more of these False Flags, such as the “foiled” aircraft attacks. The outcome is always the same: give up some more of your liberties and your government will “protect” you. The term “conspiracy theory” is used to damage the credibility of any argument that dares to question the official version of events. But it is only a theory if the facts do not support it; and one only has to do a little research to find the true facts for themselves. The day any of us is not allowed to ask questions of its own government is the day a dictatorship becomes a stark reality in our own time.''
thumbdown yucky
osama < this guy is a real terrorist, and really wants to kill us
Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
thumbdown yuckyosama < this guy is a real terrorist, and really wants to kill us
Its not that simple. Dont play the fool.
Originally posted by Deano
Terror is an illusion''Terrorism does not exist. It is a phenomenon created by the government in order to facilitate their goal of a global fascist state with the power in the hands of an elite minority, in full control of a subservient population.
You're too off the other way. Terrorism exist and has always existed. Its a legitimate tool of war. Government might be co-opting it.
The 1984 generation is over. Thats not going to happen. And a little facism would do some people good. The general populous needs to learn a bit about service.