Originally posted by Soleran
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yeh but no proof exists that bin laden was responsible for 9/11...im sure he was glad it happened but theres no proof he did it. theres loads of evidence to suggest the government did it. can people face the fact that governments are capables of orchestrating the events of 9/11 and blaming someone else? how many people can wake upto this? in the year 2000 the project for new american century document said something along the lines of ''we need a pearl harbour like event to get us into iraq'' and what happened a year later...BINGO.
''Creating wars is a wonderful way to make vast fortunes, and destroy the status quo. You lend money to both sides to fund the war and then you lend them even more money to rebuild their devestated countrys. They get into debt(CONTROL) to you and you increase your wealth (POWER). Such Control and power allows you to build a new society in the image of your agenda when the war you have created and funded has destroyed the old structure.''
if you control both sides, aka the taliban and us government, then you can pit them agaisnt each other. the propaganda is very simplistic:
in one corner in the blue side..al ciaida i mean al quaida(which doesnt really exist on the level we think but they will convince everyone it does) and in the red corner...hey its us the good guys.
thats what they have brought it down to.
the elite needed 9/11 to further the agenda. and more atrocitys will continue to happen if the human race continue to become lazy and accept whateva the government tells them.
Originally posted by DeanoTerrorism is real, it was just used as a crutch by the Bush Administration to install the Patriot Act.
Terror is an illusion''Terrorism does not exist. It is a phenomenon created by the government in order to facilitate their goal of a global fascist state with the power in the hands of an elite minority, in full control of a subservient population.
“False Flag Operations” are a technique favoured by government in accelerating these aims. A False Flag Operation is one carried out by a group or nation, either military or terrorist in nature, that is designed to conveniently implicate another group or nation. These have been used since the days of the Nazi Party when Hitler burned down his own Reichstag building and blamed the communists, allowing him to transform Germany from a democracy into a dictatorship.
In our own time they have become more commonplace since the publication of “The Project for the New American Century” in September 2000, whose contributors include members of the Bush regime such as former Deputy Secretary of Defence Paul Wolfowitz, now President of the World Bank. This document was a blueprint for Amercan-led globalisation backed by the military. On Page 51, paragraph 1 it reads: “The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.” 9/11 happened less than a year after this went to print.
Now we are experiencing more and more of these False Flags, such as the “foiled” aircraft attacks. The outcome is always the same: give up some more of your liberties and your government will “protect” you. The term “conspiracy theory” is used to damage the credibility of any argument that dares to question the official version of events. But it is only a theory if the facts do not support it; and one only has to do a little research to find the true facts for themselves. The day any of us is not allowed to ask questions of its own government is the day a dictatorship becomes a stark reality in our own time.''
Originally posted by Alliance
no one is winning in the "War on Terrorism"...besides Oil companies, Haliburton, and the terrorists.
Don't forget weapons manufacturers, the third of the biggest grossing industries after oil and something else that escapes me at the moment.
No, because of the simple fact that all Muslims aren't terrorists yet every terrorist so far, has been a Muslim.
Well, the terrorists you are fighting, not every terrorist.. Lets not forget all the other terrorists that have come and gone and not really got much attention... like the IRA, Communist and Anti-Communist movements. Various insurgents over the years, certain hard line Jewish cells (which do exist), those doomsday cultists running around Asia.... and so on.
Originally posted by RobtardHomer: Ah, not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm!
Considering there hasn't been any successful attacks on US soil since 9/11, I'd say the US Security is a step ahead. But that is taking into consideration that terrorist attacks have been attempted, which I do not know with 100% accuracy.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Don't forget weapons manufacturers, the third of the biggest grossing industries after oil and something else that escapes me at the moment.
Yes...i should have been more specific.
I worte a (quite lengthy) paper on the rise of American militarism as a result of the Cold War. This nation has chaged so much in the past 50 years. After WWII, 1 in 4 americans was employed in the defense industry.
We've toned it down some, but this nation have beecome increasingly fascist and reliant on its military power (save for a few spots here and there).
Now facism has some good points, but the corporate facism is inexcusable. We should stop going to war to keep our economy up.
But, I almost can predict: Americna involvement in Iraq will decrease, major oporations will stop just before the 2008 election, a democrat will win in 08, the US will enter its post war recession, Republicans will blame it on the Democrats "weak on everything" and take back the white house in 2012 with promises of tax cuts that bankrupt this nation.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Homer: Ah, not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm!
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, honey.
Lisa: By your logic, I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away!
Homer: Uh-huh, and how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around here, do you?
Homer: (Looks around) Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.
LOL, I love the Simpson’s and that was a good episode... But, Lisa's reasoning has one fatal flaw, it could be possible that no bears are around because the Bear Patrol's function is to keep bears away (in a made up cartoon sense), but her "stupid rock" would have no possible way of keeping away tigers.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Homer: Ah, not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm!
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, honey.
Lisa: By your logic, I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away!
Homer: Uh-huh, and how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around here, do you?
Homer: (Looks around) Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.
I remember using that one in a similar thread in this exact forum. How can one cartoon be so politically relevant I ask? (Rhetorical)
I think that the terrorists are ahead because of their mentality. All of them believe that America is the Great Satan, that it is a dogshit pie thrown in the face of the almighty Allah, etc. Whereas around here there are a lot of people who think that most Arabs aren't terrorists, and these people do everything they can do avoid adressing the fact that most terrorists are Arabs/Muslims and/or to convince people that terrorists don't exist (because if we were to acknowledge that terrorists might actually *GASP!* exist, then we might offend some unimportant minority). America and its minions are going easy on the terrorists, but the terrorists have no intention of going easy on us.