Is Jesus a Buddhist?

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Is Jesus a Buddhist?

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Is Jesus a Buddhist?

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The following issues may support the view that Jesus is a Buddhist:

1. Jesus had expounded his doctrine of patience, non-violence and compassion which was seemingly an opposite view to that of the God according to the Old Testament. Jesus preached and asked his followers to turn the other cheek when somebody slapped you, whist an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth in the Mosaic Law clearly denoted retaliation and vengeance which were regarded as justice.

2. In the Revelation of St John, a Christian scripture written down in Greek in the Eastern Mediterranean (v. 1) it refers to a book closely sealed with seven seals. St John weeps bitterly (v. 4) because he sees no one worthy to open the book and to break its seals. This can be done by the Lamb alone, slaughtered in sacrifice (v. 9). There is a similar book in Mahayana Buddhism, The Perfection of Wisdom sealed with seven seals, written in Sanskrit in South India. The book has 8000 lines and in chapters 30 and 31 it describes in detail how Everweeping Bodhisattva slaughtered himself in sacrifice, and how he thereby became worthy of the Perfection of Wisdom. This parallel is remarkable not only for the similarities of the religious logic, but also for the fact that both have seven seals. (1)

3. A parable from the Gospels, the teachings or revelations of Christ, (Matthew 13, 1-23; Mark 4, 1-20; Luke 8, 4-15) has a similarity to that of the Buddha’s teachings. “People hear my words: a farmer goes to sow his fields. The birds come and eat the seeds. Other seed falls on the path. And behold, some seed falls on the rock where there is no earth, and withers away. Some falls under the thorns and cannot grow. The seed that falls on good earth, however, sprouts and brings forth fruit. The farmer is Jesus and the seeds are his words of wisdom. The seeds which are eaten by the birds means people who do not understand the words. The seeds that falls onto the rocks are the words of wisdom that go in one ear and come out of the other. The seeds that land under the thorns means those who hear and see, but do not act accordingly. The seeds which land on the good earth means those that hear the words of wisdom and act accordingly. (2)

4. Jesus life-history between the ages of 13-30 is missing. It is explained that Jesus was attending to his father’s livelihood during that period which seemed to be unlikely. Jesus was a wise and an active child and was given a high place in a temple before that missing-period. Why did he have to be in a low profile at the most active period of one’s lifetime?

5. An account of Jesus’ expedition to Tibet and his subsequent practice of Samatha meditation was described by scholars. He was supposed to have obtained supernatural powers (Jhana and Abhina) and went back to Palestine to teach his skills. (3, 4)

Is Jesus a Bodhisatta?

The following propositions may support the view of Jesus as Bodhisattava (Sanskrit).

1. Theoretically, everyone can become a Bodhisatta if enough effort and determination is present. A bodhisatta does not necessarily have to be a Buddhist in his previous life before his final life as a buddha.

2. Jesus’ commitment to sacrifice his own life in order to save others was a hard evidence for being a bodhisatta.

3. His doctrine may be compatible to that of a bodhisatta and his prediction of his second coming to this world to save people clearly supports the view of a bodhisatta since buddhas have to be humans.

Is Jesus and Metteyya, the next would-be buddha the same person ?

There are reasons to believe this supposition of Jesus as Maitreya (Sanskrit), viz.

1. The second coming of Jesus and the appearance of Metteyya before this world ends is a strong coincidence.

2. Jesus is believed to be in Heaven at present and Metteyya is also in Tushita heaven awaiting for his final life as a buddha.

3. Jesus has a determination to become a saviour which may be of an equal calibre to that of a bodhisatta.

4. The practice of meditation of the next would-be buddha and that of Jesus is extra-ordinarily similar; Metta Bhavana which in essence is loving kindness and compassion to all sentient beings.

The Null Hypothesis or to disprove the hypothesis of Jesus being the next Bodhisatta

In research we usually analyse data to disprove that there is a difference or the hypothesis is untrue. It is called Null hypothesis, like in the law that a person is not guilty until and unless proved to be guilty.

In this context we shall try to prove the Null hypothesis that Jesus and Metteyya are not the same person. If we can find any evidence of Metteyya being predicted as a would-be buddha, was already in Tushita awaiting for his final life as a buddha, and it was proclaimed during the lifetime of Gottama Buddha, then it will serve as a Null hypothesis to our investigation. Jesus was born approximately 500 years after Gottama Buddha and if the former hypothesis that Metteyya was already in Heaven during the time of Gottama Buddha this will nullify the theory.

In search for the evidence

There is an account in the Buddhist texts of an young novice who came forward to accept a spare robe of the two that were offered to the Buddha. The audience was taken aback by the brave behaviour of the novice when the rest of the order of the monks that were present did not come forward. The Buddha told the audience that he was the would-be Metteyya who would become the next buddha one day.

This account comes from the scriptures which are direct words of Gottama Buddha and can be taken for granted as authentic. This evidence will support the view that Mettaya was not already in Tushita at the time of the Buddha. However, it will not support the theory nor will it nullify completely the Null hypothesis that we have put forward. We will need to make further enquiries.

1. When is it known to us that Metteyya is in Tushita ?

2. Who gave that statement and how authentic is it ?

3. How reliable was that person who gave the statement ?

So far, we have not disproved the hypothesis that Jesus and Metteyya are the same. There is a possibility that Jesus is the Metteyya, but there are still sequential questions that we need to resolve. It is traditional for a would-be buddha to come from Tushita which is the last abode for Bodhissatas. But, we do not know from which source did the statement that Metteyya was presently awaiting in Tushita come from. We will need to do further research and will require scholars that can explore the original Pali texts as well as scholars that have wide knowledge about Mahaya Buddhism. The Mahayanists are regarded to be more nearer to Christianity as the two faiths have similarities and developed more or less during the same era and from the locality that had contacts between the two religions. We will leave this as an open discussion and would like to invite scholars to join us in the quest.

REFERENCES

1) BUDDHISM: THE MAHAYANA by Edward Conze. The Hutchinson Encyclopedia of living Faiths, Ed. R.C. Zaehner. Helicon Pub, Oxford OX1 2EP.

2) Jesus’ Tomb in Srinagar by Holger Kersten 1986. GPO Box 961, D-7800 Freiburg, W. Germany.

3) The untold teachings of the Christ by Prof. Goldricke 1925. (Quoted from the Questions and Answers of Buddhism, by Ashin Ariya Dhamma, a Burmese translation)

4) Jesus’ two journeys to India and his demise as Yuz Asaf in Kashmir in the Ikmal-ud-Din by Shaik Al-Sa’id-us-Sadiq. A.D. 962 ca. Translated into German by Max Muller in 1882.

There is a rather strong belief which supports idea that Jesus was educated by Buddhist monks.

I do believe he was a kind of a Buddhist. Perhaps even a Hindu.

His ideas have been converted and merged with those of Judaism, ultimately merging Old and New Testament to make Bible.
Perhaps people wanted to merge these two, or at least make them more alike.

Jesus' teaching do appear at places very similar to those of Buddha. I do not reject the idea that he could have been a bodhisatta, and his compassion for all beings is just a small indicator of that.

Just a couple of comments...

Jesus' commandment of love, even of one's enemy, is from the Old Testament, which would make sense since he was a devout Jew. This is oft either forgotten, ignored, or may never have been pointed out in the first place, especially by those on constant call to "prove" Christianity's "superiority" to Judaism (Shakey, I certainly do Not see any offense meant in what you wrote; it is a reflection of my own feelings that I felt I had to clarify this point).
One should keep in mind that the Bible is also about the history of the Jews, their persecution and struggle against those whom, you show them love, they still gonna cut your head off. Therefore, "loving your enemy," per se, would've offered terrible survival value, though it was still something to strive for, when one could do it. Note that Forgiveness figures prominantly in Jewish ethics.

Secondly, while I agree with the comparison of Jesus to a Bodhisatta is valid, I guess I'm not entirely comfortable with the phrasing of the question (Is Jesus a Bodhisatta?). Kinda reminds me of like when a person says, "My mother looks like me," where the more accurate phrasing is "I look like my mom." (jeez, I hope that was clear). Perhaps a better phrasing is, "Did Jesus demonstrate qualities which, from a Buddhist POV, are like those of a Boddhisatta?"

Again, this is just me: the principles of love and givingness in Judaism predate those of Buddhism. But the history of the faiths are very different, and so different elements have been emphasized over time.

My point is, what I've always believed: any genuine faith is based on universal principles which differ only in expression.

I'll go away now.

The belief of Jesus being a Buddha is not a new or a random one. There are 30 years of Jesus' absence, and no record of his life, during which time, it is more than probable he has spent time in India.

Second, there are FAR more similarities in Hinduism and Christianity then there are in judaism and Christianity.

The life and death of Krishna is almost identical to that of Jesus.

Mindship I didn't write the above. It was written by Dr. Tin Htut. I simply found it and reported it to you without editing.

To say that many religions all teach the same things is a bit unfair to the myriad differences inherent in each religious practice.

That said, yeah, there's loads of similarities, and many of the stories, metaphors, teachings, etc. can be transplanted to and from many different religious traditions. Boiled down to a few basic elements, it's surprising to many how similar Buddhism and Christianity can seem.

Yes, I think the story of Jesus inherited many traits inherent within Buddhism. But as for whether or not the historical Jesus was a Buddhist, it's kinda hard to say, since it's obvious that many of his teachings have earlier predecessors from various religions and cultures, so discerning the man from the story would be next to impossible.

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And as for the missing 30 years, a vague period of obscurity is common in many hero/savior stories, to lend the proper mystique, and also allow for backstory to be added as later authors see fit. It is doubtful he truly was gone for 30 years, though speculation is of course inevitable with such scenarios.

I do not find it logical that Jesus went to Tibet or India between ages 13-30, which is 17 years not 30. Also, Jesus's travels are mentioned in the Bible. If it was mentioned that Jesus was in Egypt why not mention that he went into the east? Jesus never mentions giong east. The people of Nazereth knew him well as the carpenter's son. I would conclude that he was always around. Also, Jesus was a devout Jew. This is important because Jesus fully believed the 1st commandment and therefore could not have been a Buddhist. People who do not see the connection between the NT and OT should stop focusing on the Law, which still preaches love, and read Job, Psalms, and Isaiah. Christianity is based 100% on the fulfillment of Judaism.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I do not find it logical that Jesus went to Tibet or India between ages 13-30, which is 17 years not 30. Also, Jesus's travels are mentioned in the Bible. If it was mentioned that Jesus was in Egypt why not mention that he went into the east? Jesus never mentions giong east. The people of Nazereth knew him well as the carpenter's son. I would conclude that he was always around. Also, Jesus was a devout Jew. This is important because Jesus fully believed the 1st commandment and therefore could not have been a Buddhist. People who do not see the connection between the NT and OT should stop focusing on the Law, which still preaches love, and read Job, Psalms, and Isaiah. Christianity is based 100% on the fulfillment of Judaism.

A Christian can be a Buddhist without breaking the 1st commandment because Buddhism does not worship a God. There are a few Christians who are members of my Buddhist group. We promote world piece through individual happiness, and that does not conflict with Christianity.

Second, there are FAR more similarities in Hinduism and Christianity then there are in Judaism and Christianity.

I disagree. While the stories of certain main characters--Krishna, Jesus and for that matter Moses--all share features which Joseph Campbell pointed out in his book "The Hero with a Thousand Faces," Hinduism and Christianity, as faiths, are very different, the most glaring difference being Hinduism is polytheistic and has been historically very tolerant of other religions, while Christianity, historically, has been neither.

Secondly, Judaism and Christianity are so closely tied together that it may be fair to say that there would be no Christianity if not for Judaism. Christianity was founded by Jews, based on the teachings of a Jew. They have the 10 Commandments in common, up to their divergence a common history. They have a common God. There are probably no two major faiths in the world which have as much in common as Judaism and Christianity.

This is why I always say, Christian antiSemitism is perhaps God's biggest prank.

Mindship I didn't write the above. It was written by Dr. Tin Htut. I simply found it and reported it to you without editing.

I know. I was just too lazy to differentiate that part. 😕

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We promote world piece.
Are you saying that you want to break the world apart? What sort of terrorist are you?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Are you saying that you want to break the world apart? What sort of terrorist are you?

Ona wh cant speal wel.

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btw, Shahk, nice new sig.

Originally posted by Mindship
^ 😂 ^

btw, Shahk, nice new sig.

too bad its quality sucks.

Originally posted by Alliance
too bad its quality sucks.

I haven't replaced it with the one you sent me. Procrastination.

Neverending attempts to draw paralells between Buddhism and Christianity amuse me.

Originally posted by Alliance
too bad its quality sucks.

I think you make cool sigs.

Jesus life-history between the ages of 13-30 is missing. It is explained that Jesus was attending to his father’s livelihood during that period which seemed to be unlikely. Jesus was a wise and an active child and was given a high place in a temple before that missing-period. Why did he have to be in a low profile at the most active period of one’s lifetime?

Someone has never read the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. Just because this clown isn't familiar with stories of Jesus' childhood, it doesn't mean there aren't any.

The Null Hypothesis or to disprove the hypothesis of Jesus being the next Bodhisatta

In research we usually analyse data to disprove that there is a difference or the hypothesis is untrue. It is called Null hypothesis, like in the law that a person is not guilty until and unless proved to be guilty.

In this context we shall try to prove the Null hypothesis that Jesus and Metteyya are not the same person.

This persons failure to understand null hypotheses makes the math major in me cry out in torment. If the null hypothesis is that Jesus and Metteyya are not the same person, you do not have to prove it. You're not supposed to try to prove null hypotheses. You assume it's true unless its proven not to be. Argh, people piss me off.

Originally posted by Gregory
...This persons failure to understand null hypotheses makes the math major in me cry out in torment. If the null hypothesis is that Jesus and Metteyya are not the same person, you do not have to prove it. You're not supposed to try to prove null hypotheses. You assume it's true unless its proven not to be. Argh, people piss me off.

I thought that part was strange, but I thought it would make a good topic for discussion.

Originally posted by Mindship
I think you make cool sigs.

Thanks. 😄

Two of the definitions of Christian

3 Manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus; Christlike.
4 Showing a loving concern for others; humane.

I would say that a Buddhist that lives his religion well, fits the Christian term.

I believe that from a Buddhist perspective Jesus could be considered to be a believer in many of the philosophical concepts found in Buddhism. I also believe that Buddhism was divinely inspired, so Christ, given my belief in his divine nature, would be the pinnacle of Buddhism for me.

The question, given this idea that I hold that God inspired much of Buddhism, is whether or not Buddhists are Christian. Or rather, since the Mormon belief system differs so greatly from much of mainstream Christianity, and the fact that I think many Christians would disagree with the idea that the Buddha was divinely inspired, are Buddhists a form of Mormon.