Prove to me that you have a soul.

Started by ragesRemorse28 pages
Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
well, anything coupled into duality becomes a complexity (complexity is the sum of simple parts, pairs of two are easier to study..but since we know about matrices, as long as we don't have too many unknowns, we can still figure out the missing piece).

So, in other words concrete evidence of proving or disproving is unattainable.

Never understood why skeptics need proof to give validation to their views. But theres not much i do understand about anything.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
So, in other words concrete evidence of proving or disproving is unattainable.

No, deductive evidence of non-existence is unattainable.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Never understood why skeptics need proof to give validation to their views. But theres not much i do understand about anything.

One who does not require that beliefs be substantiated, will simply believe anything.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
what battle. and why is there only two halves to a battle. How are you sure battles dont consist of quarters?

They do... Monday night football.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE

One who does not require that beliefs be substantiated, will simply believe anything.

This does not include all whom believe in the existence in a soul. Thats a fairly loud liberty taken in your statement, assuming you believe this about all who believe in the human soul.

Originally posted by Jim Reaper
They do... Monday night football.

ooooooh yeah. I believe battles consist of periods myself. Quarters imply that there is a pre detined conclusion. All the best battles go on forever, just go through periods of change...like hockey.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
This does not include all whom believe in the existence in a soul. Thats a fairly loud liberty taken in your statement, assuming you believe this about all who believe in the human soul.

I believe this about everyone who does not require that beliefs be substantiated, not necessarily about everyone who believes in the existence of a soul.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I believe this about everyone who does not require that beliefs be substantiated, not necessarily about everyone who believes in the existence of a soul.

interesting....

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I believe this about everyone who does not require that beliefs be substantiated, not necessarily about everyone who believes in the existence of a soul.

for religous people, the lack of evidence that substantiates the belief, is infact an important aspect in many beliefs. this is apart faith, and faith is a key aspect of most religions. This does not mean these people will believe in anything blindly.
Newton was very religous, but refused that man was merely created, however, he still believed in a soul and a God, both of which have no scientific evidence of existing.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
interesting....

It is a reference to one who is willing to believe that "donkeys can talk, people can fly, and I guy named 'Jesus' lives up in the sky," completely unsubstantiated, but requires proof of benal claims in his daily life.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
for religous people, the lack of evidence that substantiates the belief, is infact an important aspect in many beliefs. this is apart faith, and faith is a key aspect of most religions.

How convenient.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
This does not mean these people will believe in anything blindly.
Newton was very religous, but refused that man was merely created, however, he still believed in a soul and a God, both of which have no scientific evidence of existing.

What is the difference between believing one set of outrageous claims unsubstantiated versus another?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It is a reference to one who is willing to believe that "donkeys can talk, people can fly, and I guy named 'Jesus' lives up in the sky," completely unsubstantiated, but requires proof of benal claims in his daily life.

if only that were my point.

apparently, you understand...hence the post.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
the lack of evidence that substantiates the belief

Is there a difference between the two?

Don't asume there are two sides to this dispute. Assuming the different sides, you're taking on a geometry nightmare.

why does it really matter if we have a soul or not. i mean one thing is a fact, we have conciousness/self awareness of a very high degree in some respects. proving it is of mystic origin or scientific wont actually LESSEN the degree or enhance the degree of this conciousness/awareness will it? its like people need validation from a higher purpose for them to EXIST when the fundamentals of their existance remain unchanged either way. all we can say is that we have SOMETHING and reguardless of origin, it shall stay with us as long as we continue to exist.

what i think people really mean when they talk about the SOUL is an awareness that can specifically live on after DEATH and the topic should be, is there life/existance after death or not.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
why does it really matter if we have a soul or not. i mean one thing is a fact, we have conciousness/self awareness of a very high degree in some respects. proving it is of mystic origin or scientific wont actually LESSEN the degree or enhance the degree of this conciousness/awareness will it? its like people need validation from a higher purpose for them to EXIST when the fundamentals of their existance remain unchanged either way. all we can say is that we have SOMETHING and reguardless of origin, it shall stay with us as long as we continue to exist.

what i think people really mean when they talk about the SOUL is an awareness that can specifically live on after DEATH and the topic should be, is there life/existance after death or not.

But the one thing that bothers me about the idea of a soul is that supposedly, other animals don’t have souls. It is the separation of humans from the natural world that has lead to great evil in this world, and the idea of a soul is part of that arrogant way of thinking.

Re: Prove to me that you have a soul.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Prove to me that you have a soul.

Do we have a soul, and if we do, how do you know this to be true?

Give me your proof.

A soul is the aspect of the mind in my belief system.

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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
A soul is the aspect of the mind in my belief system.

Please explain, in detail.

Re: Re: Re: Prove to me that you have a soul.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please explain, in detail.

The Soul to me is specified content of unconcious mind. It's something one discovers when he "know's" himself. Not everyone finds it though.

I only have a soul if I'm wearing shoes 😉

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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
The Soul to me is specified content of unconcious mind. It's something one discovers when he "know's" himself. Not everyone finds it though.

Can it separate itself from your body?

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can it separate itself from your body?

It is seperate from the body to me. You see I believe that a person is more than the body since I'm a Dualist. The mind and the Body are seperate in a sense to me.