Silver Surfer vs. The Flash(race)

I watch Pokemon
Good job for posting the actual in-panel data.

Mindship
For shame that you quoted someone who misquoted the comic.
It is .00001 microseconds, not .0001 seconds. In other words, Flash did this, not in 1/10,000 of a second, but in 1/100,000,000,000 -- one-hundred-billionth -- of a second.
(Damn! For shame again for getting the speed-of-light wrong, too!)

So...532,000 x 70 x 100,000,000,000 divided by 186,000 = (about)...
20 trillion times lightspeed.

This means (among other things, and assuming I did my math right this time):
1. Flash could run to the nearest star and back (4.3 lightyears) in about 1/100,000 second. Or, do 100,000 round trips to Alpha Centauri in 1 full second.
2. Round trip to the nearest major galaxy -- Andromeda, about 2,300,000 lightyears away -- in about 7 seconds.
3. To the edge of the observable universe, and back (a round trip of about 28 billion lightyears), in less than 4 days.

Now That's freakin' fast.

DC comics
Shame on you, then, for calling this "near-light travel."

I watch Pokemon, thanks for the scans.

This is typical of comic writers, they keep talking about how he was traveling at almost light speed, but he was obviouslty going much much faster. It makes it hard to gauge speed potential. Maybe they didn't realize how fast he would really have to be going to accomplish such a task.

The problem is, the DC writers didn't WRITE him as going faster than light at ALL in that feat. Though if we bring REAL mathematics into it, it changes things. The official feat shown on panel there would be near-light. Not some trillions times lightspeed. When we see a feat, at times it is open to interpretation (The Wolverine-dumpster feat, for example. Did it weigh a thousand pounds? Two thousand? Did he throw it with one hand? Two? How did he grip it?). Feats like these are only open to interpretation because a writer didn't give us a little blurb that said "And Wolverine one hand pitches this 2031 pound dumpster at his enemy," because, if it DID say that, there would be no argument about it.

In this case? The on-panel evidence in THIS case shows that the Flash can run near-light speed(though I know he can go much faster, no need to point that out). Regardless of the plausibility of the Flash actually completing his task at near-lightspeed; DC's official word from that comic says that the Flash can run at near-lightspeed, and complete that task in a hundred billionth of a second.

Wally still loses.

Why? Simple:

Wally is a less-than-lightspeed runner until he reaches the speedforce, he then uses time manipulation to pretty much beat anyone.

Surfer is a 300x lightspeed figher who needs no speedforce or anything. Until Flash hits the speedforce, he'd look like a turtle to Surfer and before Flash could hit the speedforce, Surfer would have won 10x over.

Originally posted by long pig
Wally still loses.

Why? Simple:

Wally is a less-than-lightspeed runner until he reaches the speedforce, he then uses time manipulation to pretty much beat anyone.

Surfer is a 300x lightspeed figher who needs no speedforce or anything. Until Flash hits the speedforce, he'd look like a turtle to Surfer and before Flash could hit the speedforce, Surfer would have won 10x over.

what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Originally posted by long pig
Wally still loses.

Why? Simple:

Wally is a less-than-lightspeed runner until he reaches the speedforce, he then uses time manipulation to pretty much beat anyone.

Surfer is a 300x lightspeed figher who needs no speedforce or anything. Until Flash hits the speedforce, he'd look like a turtle to Surfer and before Flash could hit the speedforce, Surfer would have won 10x over.

Without moving, Flash could already have himself lightspeed by accelerating his molocules before he ever starts moving his legs when the race begins. Likewise, he could already be tapping into the speedforce, by the time someone says go.

If he cites the code and uses his abilities to their fullest - as he would attempt to do with forum rules. I'm not sure Surfer could keep up.

Want a scan?
Here's Flash standing still, while at the same time moving fast enough to keep up with Zoom between the seconds of our timeline because of the Speed Force Mantra [3x2(9yz)4a].
http://img163.echo.cx/my.php?image=flashv2200page155be.jpg

This is a lot tougher of a discision than you're making it out to be, imo.

Originally posted by Juntai
3-0 Flash lol

The speed force pails in comparison to the power cosmic. Surfer can zip from galaxy to galaxy in mere seconds.....also in the current nova corps files it says that surfer has the ability to time travel.....surfer just is on a whole nother lvl of hero than the flash is.....the flash is my fav DC character but he doesnt have anything on the Sentinel of the Spaceways.

Originally posted by Wally West
What the heck are you talking about? Flash didnt gain control of time in his fight with Zoom

And like I said already, I don't know why people bring up time travel feats for either character when this is just meant to be a regular race

Uh yeah he did, and by gain control of time I mean that he disjointed himself from our time line just as zoom permanently is, everything was standing still to them well they were moving around at untold speeds.

By the way from that Flash evacuation feat, 20 trillion times the speed of light beats anything Surfer has ever done, and you want to talk about acceleration? Check our Flash's fights with Zoom or the evacuation feat, he didn't need to build up speed he did it on the fly.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic
The speed force pails in comparison to the power cosmic.

Okay, I stopped reading this statement after this sentence. That's garbage. *checks his forum name* Oh yeah! 😂

Ive got to admit Flash beats SS in this catergory.. Figuring those equation kinda heart my head.. lol..