This is what I put in the post for Ulik vs. the Thing:
Ulik is an 85 class guy.
Very tough, very durable. Constantly fought Thor, and even though he isn't as strong as Thor, he always was able to hang, and take everything goldilocks could dish out.
I really like Ben, but I think Ulik could take this 6/10.
If Ulik uses his Metal Pounders, he takes Ben 10/10.
Against WM he would lose 8/10. With his Metal Pounders, I say 5/5.
Originally posted by HorrificusWhy not? Colossus fought both Glads and Hulk and did well.
He is not a Thing/Colossus level opponent, regardless of the old profile info.Thing and Colossus would never have been able to fight Thor as Ulik has.
Also Thor didn't look so good against Mongoose. That will tell you how inconsistent Thor was written in his classic days. Hell even bullets hurt Thor before.
Originally posted by DamborgsonNo either Ben or Colossus would give him the fight of his life.
👆 Ulik would beat Ben and Piotr to death. Simon would be hard pressed to beat him also.
It's not about doing well against classic Thor but how do you fare outside of Thor. The fact that Ulik is thing level outside Thor proves that Thor was written down to him. In recent times Thor owns Ulik with ease. Did Thor's power increase from his classic days or was it that he was written down?
Ulik ftw.
it is absurd that ppl are using profile info to debate here rather than character comic history.
if Ulik is Colossus level it is modern Cytorrak Colossus. 😉
Thing nor Colossus could handle the beating Thor gives and Ulik has shrugged it off enough times consistently to give Thor a good fight.. Ulik is a solid 100+ mid.
hell, Current Tanarus has an amp doesnt he? 😑
Originally posted by h1a8What has he ever done or shown that makes you think of him as Thing level? Yes doing well against Classic Thor does kinda imply strength. It's not just one or two fights. Its their entire history. Ulik has been portrayed as being a heavy hitter capable of giving Thor trouble. There's no shame in that.It's not about doing well against classic Thor but how do you fare outside of Thor. The fact that Ulik is thing level outside Thor proves that Thor was written down to him. In recent times Thor owns Ulik with ease. Did Thor's power increase from his classic days or was it that he was written down?
Does Thor beating Ulik easier than usual prove Ulik is thing level? Not really. Thor's superior to Ulik in every way you look at it physically. Doesn't mean Thor is written down when he struggles with him. It means Ulik is a challenge. (and btw recent Ulik palmed Mjolnir.)
Originally posted by Damborgson
What has he ever done or shown that makes you think of him as Thing level? Yes doing well against Classic Thor does kinda imply strength. It's not just one or two fights. Its their entire history. Ulik has been portrayed as being a heavy hitter capable of giving Thor trouble. There's no shame in that.Does Thor beating Ulik easier than usual prove Ulik is thing level? Not really. Thor's superior to Ulik in every way you look at it physically. Doesn't mean Thor is written down when he struggles with him. It means Ulik is a challenge. (and btw recent Ulik palmed Mjolnir.)
Ulik has done nothing above Thing level outside of Thor but fall off a building and get koed.
Again Classic Thor is inconsistent. He wasn't even bullet proof at the time. Mongoose gave him problems, ice, etc.
Colossus went toe to toe with Glads and Hulk.
Colossus could have given classic Thor a good fight. Otherwise they wouldn't have him give Glads (a clear Superman clone) a good fight.