Creation vs Evolution

Originally posted by red g jacks
im not really knowledgeable on physics but i thought 'explosion' was a sort of analogy for the big bang. was it a literal explosion or just a rapid expansion?

The cosmic background radiation that we observe that is commonly associated with the Big Bang is actually when the universe cooled enough to start fusion and release photons. It happened nearly universally (HA!) all at once. It was something like 300,000 to 400,000 years after the true big bang.

That does not answer your question. But, basically, what we observe as CMBR is leftovers from that cooling and fusion period.

To directly answer it, yes: shit expanded super super super fast at the very beginning.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Also, you can’t have a large quantity of nothing. It’s just like multiplying a number by zero. You will always get zero.

that's what i thought too... can you give me a precise definition of Big Bang?

An explosion exists in an environment. Hot gasses spread out from a central point expanding into an already existing environment. Cosmic inflation did not take place inside of an environment. Cosmic inflation was everywhere in the universe expanding at the same time.

Originally posted by dyajeep
that's what i thought too... can you give me a precise definition of Big Bang?

The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the early development of the universe.[1] The key idea is that the universe is expanding. Consequently, the universe was denser and hotter in the past. Moreover, the Big Bang model suggests that at some moment all matter in the universe was contained in a single point, which is considered the beginning of the universe. Modern measurements place this moment at approximately 13.8 billion years ago, which is thus considered the age of the universe.[2] After the initial expansion, the universe cooled sufficiently to allow the formation of subatomic particles, including protons, neutrons, and electrons. Though simple atomic nuclei formed within the first three minutes after the Big Bang, thousands of years passed before the first electrically neutral atoms formed. The majority of atoms produced by the Big Bang were hydrogen, along with helium and traces of lithium. Giant clouds of these primordial elements later coalesced through gravity to form stars and galaxies, and the heavier elements were synthesized either within stars or during supernovae. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

This is a good place to start.

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The Big Bang is not an explosion of matter moving outward to fill an empty universe.

so the term "big bang" is clearly a misnomer...

Originally posted by dyajeep
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so the term "big bang" is clearly a misnomer...

Absolutely. It wasn't big and there was no bang. 😄

evolution lol yet we can not named things that have evolved

Originally posted by Shabazz916
evolution lol yet we can not named things that have evolved

Everything has evolved.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Everything has evolved.

Originally posted by Shabazz916
like ???

Like humans, and everything else. Even nonliving things evolve. River evolve, mountains evolve, solar system and even galaxies evolve.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Like humans, and everything else. Even nonliving things evolve. River evolve, mountains evolve, solar system and even galaxies evolve.

humans have not evolved... cnt say the solar system evolved because we only know a handful of things about it...we know river and mountains form.. not evolve

Originally posted by Shabazz916
humans have not evolved... cnt say the solar system evolved because we only know a handful of things about it...we know river and mountains form.. not evolve

e·volve
verb
verb: evolve; 3rd person present: evolves; past tense: evolved; past participle: evolved; gerund or present participle: evolving

1.
develop gradually, especially from a simple to a more complex form.

It is true that mountains and rivers evolve. Humans also evolve because everything changes over time.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
e·volve
verb
verb: evolve; 3rd person present: evolves; past tense: evolved; past participle: evolved; gerund or present participle: evolving

1.
develop gradually, especially from a simple to a more complex form.

It is true that mountains and rivers evolve. Humans also evolve because everything changes over time.

what did humans evolve from ?

how do mountains evolve ? how do rivers evolve ??

Originally posted by Shabazz916
what did humans evolve from ?

how do mountains evolve ? how do rivers evolve ??

You should take a geology class. It will help answer some of your questions.

The word human is a word used my humans to describe themselves. We have words that describe previous humans, but you can Google those for yourself.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You should take a geology class. It will help answer some of your questions.

The word human is a word used my humans to describe themselves. We have words that describe previous humans, but you can Google those for yourself.

A river is a natural watercourse, usually freshwater, flowing towards an ocean, a lake, a sea, or another river.... idk how that could evolve.. did it grow feet or adapt ?

Mountains are formed through tectonic forces or volcanism... how does that evolve ??

using those google words implies we were monkeys, apes... etc

Originally posted by Shabazz916
A river is a natural watercourse, usually freshwater, flowing towards an ocean, a lake, a sea, or another river.... idk how that could evolve.. did it grow feet or adapt ?

Mountains are formed through tectonic forces or volcanism... how does that evolve ??

using those google words implies we were monkeys, apes... etc

Do you ever watch Gold Rush on TV? They are mining in locations where river long ago flowed, but they don't flow there now. The river has changed; it has evolved.

If we're not talking about creationism; creation caused evolution so they're not competing hypotheses to begin with.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you ever watch Gold Rush on TV? They are mining in locations where river long ago flowed, but they don't flow there now. The river has changed; it has evolved.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Everything has evolved.

That's not science, though.

Originally posted by Oneness
In the same way that I can alter the way in which a math problem is written (evolving it), God can evolve the physical universe. Perhaps instantaneously, 10,000 becomes 4.5 billion.

That's not science, though.