Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Prove it. Evolution was discovered, not made up. If you knew anything about evolution, you would know this.
You just said it yourself. Discovery can only occur with things already in existence, no?
Evolution is an expensive platform that attempts to satisfy people in denial.
Is there any concrete evidence that you gravitate towards, that I may not be knowledgeable of, that proves that mankind evolves over an observable period of time?
At the present I am not impressed by the examples of organisms adapting to different environments over illogical time frames just to end up where we are currently. Let alone theories, or glorified explanations.
Originally posted by Jynocidus
Is there any concrete evidence that you gravitate towards, that I may not be knowledgeable of, that proves that mankind evolves over an observable period of time?
Originally posted by Jynocidus
At the present I am not impressed by the examples of organisms adapting to different environments over illogical time frames just to end up where we are currently. Let alone theories, or glorified explanations.
Also, I am not impressed by your conspiracy argument on evolution. That would require that you provide some evidence that you don’t have.
You can have your own beliefs, but you cannot have your own facts.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have a good understanding of evolution, and I think you know nothing about it. How can I talk to you about evolution? Evolution is right in front of us. Everything changes. Given enough time, everything will change completely. A hundred million years ago, all the life on this planet was completely different. A hundred million before that, again all life was different. Not only was life different, but the Earth was also different. The oceans and continents were in completely different locations from where they are now. We know this because of plate tectonics.It is not my goal to impress you. I only ask that you gain more knowledge about evolution, before you just dismiss it out of hand.
Also, I am not impressed by your conspiracy argument on evolution. That would require that you provide some evidence that you don’t have.
You can have your own beliefs, but you cannot have your own facts.
You seem to hold some interest in how things change, which to me, is not as impressive as how things are created. To my knowledge, no man or woman in existence can literally create. The aspects of Time, Change, Life...all recognizable to be researched, thought of, speculated... etc.
Unless, you...deny...that those values are of creation, and merely exist for us to utilize in order to...wonder...or...theorize over....or, to be philosophical about even? Hmm...
Conspiracy argument about evolution? That's another topic. The fact remains that nothing in life is absolute...."everything changes," right or wrong? Does absolution...evolve...(to the benefit of...men)? So far, evolution is a theory with holes that cannot account for creation in any way. People are being funded to search for something they will never find.
You suggest that I become more knowledgeable of evolution? Does that mean...acquiring more information on the subject, IYO? Is there a grand source, for all obtainable information...in existence...?
A fact is a fact, and can either be rejected or embraced by all.
Originally posted by Jynocidus
You seem to hold some interest in how things change, which to me, is not as impressive as how things are created. To my knowledge, no man or woman in existence can literally create. The aspects of Time, Change, Life...all recognizable to be researched, thought of, speculated... etc.
Originally posted by Jynocidus
Unless, you...deny...that those values are of creation, and merely exist for us to utilize in order to...wonder...or...theorize over....or, to be philosophical about even? Hmm...
Originally posted by Jynocidus
Conspiracy argument about evolution? That's another topic. The fact remains that nothing in life is absolute...."everything changes," right or wrong? Does absolution...evolve...(to the benefit of...men)? So far, evolution is a theory with holes that cannot account for creation in any way. People are being funded to search for something they will never find.
Originally posted by Jynocidus
You suggest that I become more knowledgeable of evolution? Does that mean...acquiring more information on the subject, IYO? Is there a grand source, for all obtainable information...in existence...?
Originally posted by Jynocidus
A fact is a fact, and can either be rejected or embraced by all.
Irrelevant to who? This is what I mean by denial, or disregarding. Exactly..."what is value of creation"...=)
Did men discover change, or...create it? Did we change, before we recognized the concept? How many kajillion years was change around, before we "evolved" to be able to define this...change?
Evolution can only occur with things that exist, no?
How do animals...exist, in order to evolve?
You must not recognize that kind of significance yet, and credit men to be experts on a presently accepted "understanding."
If my claim is baseless, enlighten me. Apparently, you are an expert.
Originally posted by Jynocidus
Irrelevant to who? This is what I mean by denial, or disregarding. Exactly..."what is value of creation"...=)
Originally posted by Jynocidus
Did men discover change, or...create it? Did we change, before we recognized the concept? How many kajillion years was change around, before we "evolved" to be able to define this...change?
Originally posted by Jynocidus
Evolution can only occur with things that exist, no?
Originally posted by Jynocidus
How do animals...exist, in order to evolve?
Originally posted by Jynocidus
You must not recognize that kind of significance yet, and credit men to be experts on a presently accepted "understanding."
Originally posted by Jynocidus
If my claim is baseless, enlighten me. Apparently, you are an expert.
Originally posted by dyajeep
what is the proof of evolution, shakya? what creature evolved from what? please educate us...
I'm not educated enough to teach anyone other then myself. I can tell you this: your question is incorrect. Evolution is not like a chain. One creature doesn't evolve into another. One creature morphs through gradual change over a vast amount of time.
The information is there for anyone to learn. You just have to want to learn. If you really want to disprove evolution, I suggest you learn it first.
Not to get in the middle of this exchange, though I guess I'm about to anyway [lol], but a rather obvious answer of evidence that evolution is fact is bacteria and viruses. The science of virology is based on the study of mutations and the evolution of viruses through multiple generations of adaptation and procreation. Simple organisms adapt in a shorter timeframe than complex multi-cellular creatures like ourselves. There's also Embryology which studies the development of embryos and genes and we have evidence of vestigial organs/body parts. We've (and by we've, I mean humanity/scientists) mapped the human genome and the genomes of most other animals on this planet and have evidence of shared genetics, as well as discovering an extensive fossil record of extinct creatures with more primitively developed forms. The genome/DNA evidence on it's own is more than enough to prove evolution, frankly. We've also, through unnatural means, created multiple breeds of dogs and cattle via selective mating. There isn't an answer of how things started (yet), but there is evidence of a very good working model for natural speciation on Earth.
Or, you know, magic did it.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Not to get in the middle of this exchange, though I guess I'm about to anyway [lol], but a rather obvious answer of evidence that evolution is fact is bacteria and viruses. The science of virology is based on the study of mutations and the evolution of viruses through multiple generations of adaptation and procreation. Simple organisms adapt in a shorter timeframe than complex multi-cellular creatures like ourselves. There's also Embryology which studies the development of embryos and genes and we have evidence of vestigial organs/body parts. We've (and by we've, I mean humanity/scientists) mapped the human genome and the genomes of most other animals on this planet and have evidence of shared genetics, as well as discovering an extensive fossil record of extinct creatures with more primitively developed forms. The genome/DNA evidence on it's own is more than enough to prove evolution, frankly. We've also, through unnatural means, created multiple breeds of dogs and cattle via selective mating. There isn't an answer of how things started (yet), but there is evidence of a very good working model for natural speciation on Earth.Or, you know, magic did it.
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