Creation vs Evolution

This would be evolution/adaptation... If just one cricket is born or adapts in way where it's mating call could both attract females and not (or less cahnce of) attract parasites, it would stand to reason that it would have a greater chance of surviving and mating to pass along these (superior for the situation) traits. In turn, it's offspring who where born with these traits would have a greater chance of survival/reproducing than their siblings and/or other crickets so on an so forth. Fast forward many thousands of years (possibly less for insects due to their rapid life/generation cycles) and this "new" trait will be present in the entire species, which would probably be classified as a different species of cricket.

evolution is the change in allele frequencies within a population.

Adaptaion is liekly, but not required for evolution to occour.

Originally posted by Robtard
This would be evolution/adaptation... If just one cricket is born or adapts in way where it's mating call could both attract females and not (or less cahnce of) attract parasites, it would stand to reason that it would have a greater chance of surviving and mating to pass along these (superior for the situation) traits. In turn, it's offspring who where born with these traits would have a greater chance of survival/reproducing than their siblings and/or other crickets so on an so forth. Fast forward many thousands of years (possibly less for insects due to their rapid life/generation cycles) and this "new" trait will be present in the entire species, which would probably be classified as a different species of cricket.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I didn't read closely,

It amazes me why there is even a debate....

Evolution is pretty much 90% proven, while Creationism is 0% proven....and we are STILL arguing this for 55 pages ?????

religious debate can be sooo exhausting... sleep1

who would care if this wasn't such a highly politicized topic?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Adaptation is different than evolution though. I doubt even micro-evolution would occur in this case. I didn't read closely, but this adaptation doesn't seem to really indicate a beginning of evolution.

Adaptation + time = Evolution

Originally posted by m. sade
religious debate can be sooo exhausting... sleep1

who would care if this wasn't such a highly politicized topic?

I would care, but that’s just me. 😄

i guess i would care too 😄

i'd just prefer to approach the subject over a cup of hot chocolate and a warm fire🍺

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It amazes me why there is even a debate....

Evolution is pretty much 90% proven, while Creationism is 0% proven....and we are STILL arguing this for 55 pages ?????

"Evolution has problems, therefore creationism is right."

Originally posted by m. sade
i guess i would care too 😄

i'd just prefer to approach the subject over a cup of hot chocolate and a warm fire🍺

And I'm not? 😱 😆

Originally posted by lord xyz
Their philosophy is:

"Evolution has problems, therefore creationism is right."

I thought their philosophy was creationism is right.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And I'm not? 😱 😆

I thought their philosophy was creationism is right.

Oh no, I'm making atheists look bad again.

And yes, that is their philosophy, but they use the flaws of evolution to prove it. I mean seriously, if something isn't as good as you expected it to be, you don't go backwards and do the same shitty thing before, you go out and find a new better one. It's common sense.

Originally posted by lord xyz
If I find someone who isn't, I would have to kill him.

Oh no, I'm making atheists look bad again.

Originally posted by lord xyz
If I find someone who isn't, I would have to kill him/her.

Oh no, I'm making atheists look bad again.

And yes, that is their philosophy, but they use the flaws of evolution to prove it. I mean seriously, if something isn't as good as you expected it to be, you don't go backwards and do the same shitty thing before, you go out and find a new better one. It's common sense.

That is a smoke screen. They don't believe in facts that don't agree with what they believe. They believe that Satan is making facts as needed to take people away from god. Therefore, no matter what you say or how many facts you have, they will always find some fault to hang they disbelief on.

Evidense for Evolution:

-Fossils
-Consecutive Bone structure similiarities
-DNA
-Carbon Dating
-other scientific methods

Evidense for Creationism:

-Bible/Torah
-Quran

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is a smoke screen. They don't believe in facts that don't agree with what they believe. They believe that Satan is making facts as needed to take people away from god. Therefore, no matter what you say or how many facts you have, they will always find some fault to hang they disbelief on.

Exactly 👆

It is intentional ignorance.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is a smoke screen. They don't believe in facts that don't agree with what they believe. They believe that Satan is making facts as needed to take people away from god. Therefore, no matter what you say or how many facts you have, they will always find some fault to hang they disbelief on.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Evidense for Evolution:

-Fossils
-Consecutive Bone structure similiarities
-DNA
-Carbon Dating
-other scientific methods

Evidense for Creationism:

-Bible/Torah
-Quran

Originally posted by lord xyz
I'm talking about Creationists as a whole, not just the bible loving ones.

Evidence for Creationism: God. 😛

There's a difference? 😕

Damn.

I just realized that creationism and evolution can't go together. Whatsoever. At all.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Damn.

I just realized that creationism and evolution can't go together. Whatsoever. At all.

Correct. However, evolution and CREATION can. 🙂

Evolution explains how we have developed not how we are created. That one cell we all evolved from had to come from somewhere. If not it's spontaneous generation and that's as crazy as scientology.