Living Tribunal vs Lucifer Morningstar

Started by Thanos_THOTU12 pages

Originally posted by galan7777777
the very last pick of surfer smiling isnt a physical universe like the one lucifer created, its just surfer feeling euphoric with all of his new power.....

How do you know it's not physical? You havent read the comics.

Hey Mr. M
Let me first state that I in no way, shape, or form, doubt LT's power. I believe that it IS within his capabilities to create a universe if he felt the need. I do however see why some might be skeptical regarding the Surfer scans. For instance....

1.The scan where you say that his structure is changing and he is becoming translucent, could also be interpreted as light emanating from LT,and reflecting off of Surfer(notice that there are shadows across Surfers back, suggesting that the light is coming from a fixed source in front of Surfer)

2. The scan where you say his form is being manipulated and he is becoming light, could be interpreted as the light coming from LT intensifying to the point that it actually passes through Surfers body, making his skeleton visible. Now the intensity of the light would have to be unreal, because it is the Silver Surfer after all, but with the amount of power being used here, it's not inconceivable.

3. The scan where you say that Surfer explodes into a universe, could be interpreted as the light becoming so intense, that you cannot see the Surfer anymore, kinda like inserting a small object into your view of the sun.

4. The scan where you say the Surfer actually expands into a universe, could be interpreted as a view of all that Surfers now connected to.

5. Your scan of Surfer being connected to the infinite is defiantly that, but some might see it as him being enraptured by the experience, with the stars that were already present around him and LT reflecting off his silvery skin.

Like I said before, I'm NOT disagreeing with you so you have no need to defend your stance to me, I'm simply trying to show that since it's not EXACTLY stated in the narration, some might interpret it differently than others.

I'm not trying to but in, I was just trying to clear up the confusion between the opposing viewpoints.

<edit by myself due to flaming>

Originally posted by galan7777777
the very last pick of surfer smiling isnt a physical universe like the one lucifer created, its just surfer feeling euphoric.....

Is this Thanos feeling Euphoric?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Everyone have understand this but Galan, you must understand that some members have harder to understand this, anyhow today we have revield a new Forest Gump.
u need to stop the slandering buddy, just cause i dont agree with the fact that the scans that were shown dont decisivly say that surfer was a universe dosent mean u have 2 resort to these kind of lame ass jokes

Originally posted by Mr Master
Is this Thanos feeling Euphoric?
what im arguing about is the fact that surfer wasnt shown as becoming a "universe" in the end....... he was simply seen as being in his normal form

Originally posted by galan7777777
u need to stop the slandering buddy, just cause i dont agree with the fact that the scans that were shown dont decisivly say that surfer was a universe dosent mean u have 2 resort to these kind of lame ass jokes

It wasent a joke, however I edited it, but since you quoted it I will not be able to remove that.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
It wasent a joke, however I edited it, but since you quoted it I will not be able to remove that.

Originally posted by galan7777777
ure unbelievable

Originally posted by darthgoober
I do however see why some might be skeptical regarding the Surfer scans. For instance....

"Would you like a moment of GODHOOD"

To Marvel Godhood is this:

Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet

His FORM is being manipulated...He's becoming LIGHT

Silver Surfer exploding into a Universe

Silver Surfer ACTUALLY EXPANDING into a UNIVERSE..or technically speaking,
CONNECTING to the INFINITE...

Silver Surfer "CONNECTED to the INFINITE"

Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet = GODHOOD

Originally posted by galan7777777
ure unbelievable

I hear that from chick's a lot.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I hear that from chick's a lot.
lol, i bet u do

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Would you like a moment of GODHOOD"

To Marvel Godhood is this:

Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet

His FORM is being manipulated...He's becoming LIGHT

Silver Surfer exploding into a Universe

Silver Surfer ACTUALLY EXPANDING into a UNIVERSE..or technically speaking,
CONNECTING to the INFINITE...

Silver Surfer "CONNECTED to the INFINITE"

Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet = GODHOOD

thanos with IG was such an awesome character, i had forgotten lol!

Originally posted by galan7777777
what im arguing about is the fact that surfer wasnt shown as becoming a "universe" in the end....... he was simply seen as being in his normal form

Neither was Thanos..but he became Eternity nontheless.

Thanos becoming Eternity...it's even less impressive than when LT did it to SS

Now, go ahead and tell me Thanos was not Eterntity.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Neither was Thanos..but he became Eternity nontheless.

Thanos becoming Eternity...it's even less impressive than when LT did it to SS

Now, go ahead and tell me Thanos was not Eterntity.

i absolutely agree that thanos was eternity...... but surfer wasnt shown as being a physical universe in the end of those scans, as ive said im sure LT could create a universe, but it hasent been decisevly shown (yet), while lucifer shaping a universe has been depicted on pannel... this was my only argument from the beginning

Originally posted by galan7777777
i absolutely agree that thanos was eternity...... but surfer wasnt shown as being a physical universe in the end of those scans, as ive said im sure LT could create a universe, but it hasent been decisevly shown (yet), while lucifer shaping a universe has been depicted on pannel... this was my only argument from the beginning

So IG can make Thanos Eternity, but LT who turned it off with a thought cannot make someone Eternity?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So IG can make Thanos Eternity, but LT who turned it off with a thought cannot make someone Eternity?
i didnt say he couldnt, im just saying that LT hasnt been shown creating an entire physical universe

Originally posted by galan7777777
i didnt say he couldnt, im just saying that LT hasnt been shown creating an entire physical universe

First you said he can't compare because he literally have created a universe himself like Lucifer. - Make up your mind 🤣

Originally posted by galan7777777
i absolutely agree that thanos was eternity...... but surfer wasnt shown as being a physical universe in the end of those scans,

Explain to me the difference?

Apart from the Fact that LT's transformation of the Surfer seems more concrete and definitive than Thanos's, though you'l concede Thanos was Eternity.

Silver Surfer becoming a Universe

Thanos becoming a Universe

The difference please.

Yes I know the Silver Surfer depictions are more accurate, but go ahead and make your case.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Explain to me the difference?

Apart from the Fact that LT's transformation of the Surfer seems more concrete and definitive than Thanos's, though you'l concede Thanos was Eternity.

Silver Surfer becoming a Universe

Thanos becoming a Universe

The difference please.

Yes I know the Silver Surfer depictions are more accurate, but go ahead and make your case.

when i say "creating a universe" in mean it in the physical sense i.e- creating planets, stars, and all that goes along with a physical universe........ because this is what lucifer was depicted doing