Living Tribunal vs Lucifer Morningstar

Started by Thanos_THOTU12 pages

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But your not arguing against my point. Lucifer is outside the wrealm of judgment. And can step in and out of realities just like the lt. Lucifer is more than likely smarter than the lt. the lt doesn't have the will or smarts to even challenge God. But lucifer doesn't have the power to mess with "what's right" cuz basically that is what the lt is. everything that is right and orderly and all of that. so they really just have to settle to leave each other alone.

LT don't challange God because its not a fool.
Look if God wants to get rid of someting, its gone.
Lucifer have been to stuck up. If he were in Marvel he would not even be history.

If you even read a statement by Lucifer and a statement by LT you will notice that he uses a more advanced language.

And what do you mean LT cannot judge Lucifer...?

i still say Lucifer wins

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
LT don't challange God because its not a fool.
Look if God wants to get rid of someting, its gone.
Lucifer have been to stuck up. If he were in Marvel he would not even be history.

If you even read a statement by Lucifer and a statement by LT you will notice that he uses a more advanced language.

And what do you mean LT cannot judge Lucifer...?

He doen'st have the power to judge lucifer. HIs will cannot supercede Lucifer's own.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He doen'st have the power to judge lucifer. HIs will cannot supercede Lucifer's own.

So he can't judge Lucifer because he's from DC, but Lucifer can harm LT.
Or do you mean that he don't have the power for some reason?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So he can't judge Lucifer because he's from DC, but Lucifer can harm LT.
Or do you mean that he don't have the power for some reason?

no, he can't judge lucifer, becuz lucifer is outside the wrealm of being judged. His will superceded lt's. But lucifer doesn't have the power to set wrong ,all the right that lt represents. they have to settle for a draw imo.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
no, he can't judge lucifer, becuz lucifer is outside the wrealm of being judged. His will superceded lt's. But lucifer doesn't have the power to set wrong ,all the right that lt represents. they have to settle for a draw imo.

So if I put up Spider-man vs Batman no one can win because they are in different universes and aer unablwe to reach eachother?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So if I put up Spider-man vs Batman no one can win because they are in different universes and aer unablwe to reach eachother?

ur missing what i'm saying. Lucifer's will is outside the wrealm of judgment. Lucifer can challenge God himself. He wont' win, but the fact that his will is so strong, that he can basically step outside of judgement is saying alot. At the same time, Lucifer does not have the power, to dare challenge the perfection of righteousness that is the Living tribunal. They really can't do squat to each other.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
ur missing what i'm saying. Lucifer's will is outside the wrealm of judgment. Lucifer can challenge God himself. He wont' win, but the fact that his will is so strong, that he can basically step outside of judgement is saying alot. At the same time, Lucifer does not have the power, to dare challenge the perfection of righteousness that is the Living tribunal. They really can't do squat to each other.

Nothing but God have steped out the LT's judgement.
Not even Multi-Eternity who is the Multi-verse can stand up against him. In other words: LT can destroy the Multi-verse like nothing.
Can Lucifer destroy God's creation like nothing?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Nothing but God have steped out the LT's judgement.
Not even Multi-Eternity who is the Multi-verse can stand up against him. In other words: LT can destroy the Multi-verse like nothing.
Can Lucifer destroy God's creation like nothing?

The Lt can't destroy anything unless it's in divine order. meaning it needs to be that way. He can just do it on a whim. THat is what i'm saying. he is still under God's control. Lucifer has no such limit. The Lt could destroy all of creation trying to destroy lucifer and lucifer would just step outside of all existance. Lucifer's will exceeds the lt's will. It just is a match. they can't beat each other.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Lt can't destroy anything unless it's in divine order. meaning it needs to be that way. He can just do it on a whim. THat is what i'm saying. he is still under God's control. Lucifer has no such limit. The Lt could destroy all of creation trying to destroy lucifer and lucifer would just step outside of all existance. Lucifer's will exceeds the lt's will. It just is a match. they can't beat each other.

I say: LT is the judge if something is in "divine order" or not.
(PS: read Mr. Master's scans)

Misconception.
LT powers does not depends from beings staying under the sfere of influence of his judgment.He checked how the full power release of the IG by Warlock VS his might would have done in a battle, and gained the knowledge that he rules above the IG.He has powers which outcome those of ANYONE, except for God.
Lucifer is outside judgment?Doesn't matter.LT still can blast him nullifying his ebsence.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Nothing but God have steped out the LT's judgement.
Not even Multi-Eternity who is the Multi-verse can stand up against him. In other words: LT can destroy the Multi-verse like nothing.
Can Lucifer destroy God's creation like nothing?

Let me see here. You are comparing someone who is a guardian of God's creation to someone who made there own creation against the The Creator's Creation?? Lucifer when asked if he needed an army to protect HIS Creation said to Mazikeen "I am my OWN army. A million times more numerous than yours". And no LT doesn't know everything 😎 .

Originally posted by kevdude
Let me see here. You are comparing someone who is a guardian of God's creation to someone who made there own creation against the The Creator's Creation?? Lucifer when asked if he needed an army to protect HIS Creation said to Mazikeen "I am my OWN army. A million times more numerous than yours". And no LT doesn't know everything 😎 .

Tell me what does not LT know.

Well did he know about the outcome of him going against Adam Warlock with the IG?? And God is the only being that knows everything. LT is not Marvels God/TOAA..

Originally posted by kevdude
Well did he know about the outcome of him going against Adam Warlock with the IG?? And God is the only being that knows everything. LT is not Marvels God/TOAA..

When the Amalgam Brothers are retconned in DC vs Marvel, they say that no one's omnisience can match the Living Tribunal's.
- Not implying anything just saying.

Living Tribunal is beyond Multi-Eternity. Multi-Eternity is beyond Lucifer.

Lucifer's greatest feat was creating a Universe....oo0o0o0o0oo00o00o0o0oo0 WOWWWWW

LT can create and destroy universes just as easily.

LT takes this 👆

Lucifer's greatest feat was creating a Universe....oo0o0o0o0oo00o00o0o0oo0 WOWWWWW

No, Lucifer needs Michael's help to create a universe.
He can't do it alone.

how funny you dont have the scan of which im talking about mr masters i sue remeber seeing it though

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Living Tribunal is beyond Multi-Eternity. Multi-Eternity is beyond Lucifer.

Lucifer's greatest feat was creating a Universe....oo0o0o0o0oo00o00o0o0oo0 WOWWWWW

LT can create and destroy universes just as easily.

LT takes this 👆

Dude Michael has beaten down the Spectre before. Both he and Lucifer are peers.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No, Lucifer needs Michael's help to create a universe.
He can't do it alone.
this is true michael= the power, and lucifer= the will, without michaels power lucifer would not have been able to shape a universe