Living Tribunal vs Lucifer Morningstar

Started by Mr Master12 pages
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Lt can't really judge lucifer. His power comes from his ability to judge and set things right.

This is a battle.

The thread doesn't ask, "Can LT judge Lucifer"....

"LT vs Lucifer", that's the thread.

It's a hypothetical confrontation, so How do we figure out who would win?

By their feats of power.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If lucifer can defy God, he can defy the lt. He can't beat the lt, but the lt can do nothing to stop lucifer or hurt him.

Obviously we're assuming that they CAN hurt each other, otherwise what's the point of the thread?

Originally posted by kevdude
Let me see here. You are comparing someone who is a guardian of God's creation to someone who made there own creation against the The Creator's Creation??

Lucifer is an outlaw it seems and the Creator allows that, doesn't make him more powerful.

I'm sure if the "Creator" wanted, Lucifer and his creation would be toast, if not, DC has a chump for a "God"

Lucifer created A Universe...impressive but,

based on Feats...LT takes it.

Originally posted by kevdude
Well did he know about the outcome of him going against Adam Warlock with the IG??

Actually, he did.

They BOTH knew the outcome before it started.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Lucifer is an outlaw it seems and the Creator allows that, doesn't make him more powerful.

I'm sure if the "Creator" wanted, Lucifer and his creation would be toast, if not, DC has a chump for a "God"

Lucifer created A Universe...impressive but,

based on Feats...LT takes it.

actually lucifer didnt "create" a universe, he just "shaped" one out of michaels power

Originally posted by Mider999
how funny you dont have the scan of which im talking about mr masters i sue remeber seeing it though

I'll post every page in the comic if you want.

What confused you was other posters contorting the facts, many were mis-guided so don't think much of it.

Now you know, that's the good part.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'll post every page in the comic if you want.

What confused you was other posters contorting the facts, many were mis-guided so don't think much of it.

Now you know, that's the good part.


True, if someone don't belive you they should get the comics themselves, not ask for all the scans.

This is amazing how some people think LT is above Lucifer 😆. If LT was powerless and a moral, would he have a chance at fighting Eternity or Galactus?? NO. Lucifer Morningstar has DONE these sorta of things before and done it more then once (and quite easily). Guys really need to understand these beings before commenting and voting!! 😮‍💨

Lucifer's Will supercedes the Lt's own. And just like Lucifer shaped michael's power, he could just as easily use The LT for his own purposes. He could turn Lt's power against himself. IF they were fighting. Feats wise, doesn't always tell the tale. Dr. Doom is superior becuz of his keen mind. not becuz of displays of power. Lucifer is superior to lt in mind and will. Not in power. They have to stale mate or I give it to lucifer on sheer will power and brains.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Lucifer's Will supercedes the Lt's own. And just like Luciger shaped michael's power, he could just as easily use The LT for his own purposes. He could turn Lt's power against himself. If they were fighting. Feats wise doesn't always tell the tale. Dr. Doom is superior becuz of his keen mind. not becuz of displays of power. Lucifer is superior to lt in mind and will. Not in power. They have to stale mate or I give it to lucifer on sheer will power and brains.
but understand that lucifer did not make michael give him power which he could shape into a universe, but rather lucifer won a divine bet, and the power was his prize.....

Originally posted by galan7777777
but understand that lucifer did not make michael give him power which he could shape into a universe, but rather lucifer won a divine bet, and the power was his prize.....

Lucifer is still smarter than the LT. And he his will is also stronger. He does what he wants. WHen he wants. He is allowed by God for some reason to exist out side the bounds of Judgment and The universe. The LT does things based on his power to judge and set things a certain way. Imagine him trying to set lucifer str8. Morningstar would laugh at The LT and Stab him with Michael's sword.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Lucifer is still smarter than the LT. And he his will is also stronger. He does what he wants. WHen he wants. He is allowed by God for some reason to exist out side the bounds of Judgment and The universe. The LT does things based on his power to judge and set things a certain way. Imagine him trying to set lucifer str8. Morningstar would laugh at The LT and Stab him with Michael's sword.
i agree that none in the marvel/dc omniverse can rivel the will of lucifer, but his will dosent necessarily mean a victory, its true that LT cant kill lucifer, but can lucifer kill LT? the only one to ever "kill" LT, and i use that term very lightly, is thanos HOTU was he absorbed him......

Living Tribunal knows: Everything that happend, is going to happend and everything that will happend.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Living Tribunal knows: Everything that happend, is going to happend and everything that will happend.
but this dosent necessarily equate to having stronger will then lucifer

What... He have no real personality, at least no deapth's.
Of course he have no other will that justice in the Multi-verse.
He's the ultimate judge.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Living Tribunal knows: Everything that happend, is going to happend and everything that will happend.

The Living Tribunal isn't omniscience. He got stopped by Reeds 🙄 . God is the only 1 whos omniscience.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
What... He have no real personality, at least no deapth's.
Of course he have no other will that justice in the Multi-verse.
He's the ultimate judge.
and lucifer was made from gods own hand as "the will" you cant really get more clear then that lol!

What do will-power have to do with the battle?
This is based on power, suported by intelligence.
If someone is focused or anything it wouldent matter.

Originally posted by kevdude
The Living Tribunal isn't omniscience. He got stopped by Reeds 🙄 . God is the only 1 whos omniscience.

Yeah he got stoped by Richards... But that was a dream remember?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
What do will-power have to do with the battle?
This is based on power, suported by intelligence.
If someone is focused or anything it woudlent matter.
has LT ever demonstrated the power to shape a universe?

Originally posted by galan7777777
has LT ever demonstrated the power to shape a universe?

He helped God build the Multi-verse...