Beta Ray Bill vs. Orion

Originally posted by Cogito
Well, you could just bring up neutral feats to prove it partially correct.

Thor/BRB don't have anywhere near as impressive lifting feats, planetary body moving feats, or anything else objective. It's not even close, actually.

Originally posted by Cogito
Sure, Thor has objectively high strength feats. Thor does not have objectively high enough strength feats to compete with Superman's objective high strength feats. Not even close.

Originally posted by zopzop
BAV, in Team DC's defense, that's an unquantifiable feat (like Hercules 'lifting the heavens"😉.

So, does BRB have a feat that is on par with Orion's Oblivion Bomb feat?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It's not a problem, it's a fact. I suppose it could be a problem for you if you deny or discount it.

Thor lifted the nine realms. There isn't anything else to lift when you lift the nine realms.

😬

Originally posted by deathslash
lifting the serpent when it wrapped itself around the world?

Originally posted by deathslash
lifting the serpent when it wrapped itself around the world?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Other than Hulk, which herald has strength feats that come close to Superman?

Hyperion

Originally posted by zopzop
BAV, in Team DC's defense, that's an unquantifiable feat (like Hercules 'lifting the heavens"😉.

Its is. Still a top notch feat that is attributed to only a handful if that.

Originally posted by Cogito
Hyperion

Cap Marvel (Billy) 😈

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cap Marvel (Billy) 😈

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So only Hyperion is a peer of Superman and Hulk?

I was just listing Marvel characters off the top of my head that I could think of with comparable objective strength feats.

On the DC side, there's several who has consistently been portrayed as strength peers w/ Superman but may not have objective strength feats, such as Captain Marvel, Black Adam, and Orion. They have direct comparisons to Superman though, unlike Marvel's side.

Originally posted by Cogito
I was just listing Marvel characters off the top of my head that I could think of with comparable objective strength feats.

On the DC side, there's several who has consistently been portrayed as strength peers w/ Superman but may not have objective strength feats, such as Captain Marvel, Black Adam, and Orion. They have direct comparisons to Superman though, unlike Marvel's side.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Peers as in exact equals or in the vicinity? They certainly fall well short when it comes to raw strength feats. I'm betting Thor has even better raw feats than the ones you listed. He's had some showings where he's in the vicinity or even equal to Hulk(imo Hulk has the edge). And as far as Hyperion goes, pretty sure you know of their bro force showing which has them depicted pretty much as peers.

Who do you see winning against Pre-Flashpoint Orion and BRB?

Orion

Yeah, I give it to him no more than 6/10. Would be an awesome fight, but once both unleash their attacks, I see Orion's as a tad more powerful.

I still say bill, truth be told it's 50/50 between the two

Yeah, either can win. However, I think Orion is more versatile, so I'll side with him.

Originally posted by Zack M
Yeah, either can win. However, I think Orion is more versatile, so I'll side with him.

There both versatile, it will come down who makes the most mistakes

Originally posted by the Darkone
There both versatile, it will come down who makes the most mistakes

Mother Box's can do more, I think. And that's not including Orion's Astro Force.