Beta Ray Bill vs. Orion

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
That doesn't make any sense. He's a brawler.

Orion says Kalibak is his equal in strength, but not his equal as a fighter. And you can see it.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Heroes/Orion/Kalibak/JKFW9

Starts the fight without his skills, not even a warrior nature, against Valkyra, who is pretty hyped up in fighting skills. He starts winning when his old self is back, until the fight is interrupted.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Heroes/Orion/Valkyra

Darkseid is MUCH stronger than Orion.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Villains/Darkseid/Orion/FOUNDATIONS

Even when, technically Orion should have been stronger than normal.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Villains/Darkseid/Orion/JKFW6

But Orion's fighting skills have compensated against Darkseid.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Heroes/Orion/Darkseid/ORION5

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
So is Ares. How much respect does the get as far as combat skills?

Let's assume Ares should get similar credit for fighting skills as Orion. Ares is what? At least a tier below Hercules/Thor/Bill in strength? Where Orion is stronger than them in addition to his fighting skills, making this an unintentionally faulty comparison at best, dishonest strawman at worst.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Other than lifting an abstract book with Supes, what does he have under his belt?

That's not even a feat for the main Captain Marvel. That was Earth-5 Cap, who was that Earth's Superman counterpart.

Originally posted by Zack M
Mother Box's can do more, I think. And that's not including Orion's Astro Force.

Dude stormbreaker= moljhner it will counter the Astro force and mother box, dude it's 50/50

Originally posted by Delta1938
That's not even a feat for the main Captain Marvel. That was Earth-5 Cap, who was that Earth's Superman counterpart.

Originally posted by Delta1938
That's not even a feat for the main Captain Marvel. That was Earth-5 Cap, who was that Earth's Superman counterpart.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Dude stormbreaker= moljhner it will counter the Astro force and mother box, dude it's 50/50

When has BRB transmuted stuff? Used telepathy? Phased through objects? Turned invisible? etc...

Originally posted by Zack M
When has BRB transmuted stuff? Used telepathy? Phased through objects? Turned invisible? etc...

Stormbreaker can redulpicate Mjohlnr abilities, it was forged out of the same mold enchanted with the Odin force, your really getting technical

It's 50/50 it's that simple

Originally posted by the Darkone
Stormbreaker can redulpicate Mjohlnr abilities, it was forged out of the same mold enchanted with the Odin force, your really getting technical

It's 50/50 it's that simple

Orion has actually accomplished said feats. If you show BRB doing them, then I'll concede.

Could go either way.

Originally posted by Zack M
Orion has actually accomplished said feats. If you show BRB doing them, then I'll concede.

It's stated on panel stormbreaker is mojhlnr equal by Odin, it's 50/50 it will come to h2h which it will give Orion a slight since he's more skilled like Thor, BRB tenacity will make this a fight period

Yes, we got that, but BRB doesn't use those tactics in battle. We can't use them. Orion does, which is why I gave him the versatility edge. He also holds a speed edge, too.

It's 50/50 like I been saying, either of them slip up its lights out for one of them

Originally posted by the Darkone
It's stated on panel stormbreaker is mojhlnr equal by Odin, it's 50/50 it will come to h2h which it will give Orion a slight since he's more skilled like Thor, BRB tenacity will make this a fight period

Let's go with it is equal to Mjolnir due to what Odin stated. What has Bill done, or Thor done that you can argue Bill would do, for you to think this evens up?

Also, Orion is stronger than Bill, as well.

[QUOTE=15791760]Originally posted by Delta1938
Let's go with it is equal to Mjolnir due to what Odin stated. What has Bill done, or Thor done that you can argue Bill would do, for you to think this evens up?

Also, Orion is stronger than Bill, as well. [/QUOTE

Their equal in strength

I'd give Orion the slight edge in strength, speed, and combat experience.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Their equal in strength [/B]

One: You didn't answer my question. Two: "They're." Three: What examples make you think that?

By his feats, they are equals it's 50/50

I like both, at the end of the day it's 50/50

BRB isn't as versatile as Orion. Unless he has the feats.

Originally posted by the Darkone
By his feats, they are equals it's 50/50

I like both, at the end of the day it's 50/50

So again, you won't answer my questions. Gotcha.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So again, you won't answer my questions. Gotcha.

you ain't got sh**, I don't have to answer a question we will be going around in circles , plus this is how I feel