Wolverine Runs The Gauntlet

Started by King_Mungi10 pages
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine was hit by Juggy twice before that in that issue and he didn't have a healing factor writen into his character at that point. How :

eh? since when? as from what I remember even his early apperances he had a healing factor. I havn't read that particualar issue as I'm not denying or disputing what happened, just find it odd he had no healing factor.

Originally posted by Inhuman
ok lets throw PIS out the window.

Here he kets KO'ed by someone stronger than him with a simple backhand.

here ill help you out with another scan.
still doesnt look like he is hurt by logans "cuts".

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine was hit by Juggy twice before that in that issue and he didn't have a healing factor writen into his character at that point. How is that a helpful or relevent scan? And the Elk and Pip feats are throwing PIS out the window? 😕
what hesaid.. 😐

too bad I can show you 3 dozen scas of wolverine taking superhuman hits and shrugging them off like nothing....

but the elk feat stands huh? 🙄

also; why would venom cutting off venom's tongue hurt venom? wolverine's not hitting the host.. he's hitting the tongue.. of course that's not going to hurt venom.. 🤨

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He's not getting past Venom fighting to the best of their abilities.

clearly.. all we're saying is with CIS on he has more than a fair shot of getting past 5.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
eh? since when? as from what I remember even his early apperances he had a healing factor. I havn't read that particualar issue as I'm not denying or disputing what happened, just find it odd he had no healing factor.

Nope. He was a member of the "All New, All Different X-Men" for more then a year before we found out what his mutant ability was. At first all we knew was a) he was a mutant b) he was strong and fast and c) apparently insanely durable. The fist mention of a "healing factor" was a throw away one liner after he was bit by a Raptor and that was latter developed into his mutant ability.

Originally posted by jinzin
clearly.. all we're saying is with CIS on he has more than a fair shot of getting past 5.
It wasn't aimed at anyone, simply stating my opinion.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nope. He was a member of the "All New, All Different X-Men" for more then a year before we found out what his mutant ability was. At first all we knew was a) he was a mutant b) he was strong and fast and c) apparently insanely durable. The fist mention of a "healing factor" was a throw away one liner after he was bit by a Raptor and that was latter developed into his mutant ability.

No wait. I just thought of something.

Wolverine HAD to have the healing factor from the start.

If not, he would've bled to death everytime he unsheathed his claws. Sure, they didn't come out and say it, but it's clear that he was meant to have some sort of healing factor. Otherwise, insane durability or not, he would've bled out everytime he went SNIKT!

I don't know why that took me so long to figure out.

Wolverine fights with high class charaters often, going by feats and on panel showings I do agree with Cap it up and as of recent his healing factor is near instant.

IE Nitro fully incinerated Wolves, a few seconds later Wolves is fully regenerated, except for a burn mark on his right shoulder.

IE Wolvers was hit by a nuclear bomb, the light clears and hes fully regenerated.

IE Wolverine took a thunder clap from a raged hulk at point blank, he was completely fine, still standing, and was even telling jokes.

etc. etc.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No wait. I just thought of something.

Wolverine HAD to have the healing factor from the start.

If not, he would've bled to death everytime he unsheathed his claws. Sure, they didn't come out and say it, but it's clear that he was meant to have some sort of healing factor. Otherwise, insane durability or not, he would've bled out everytime he went SNIKT!

I don't know why that took me so long to figure out.

His claws where thought to be attachments of some sort to his body at first. If the weren't natural there would need to be hydraulics and other mechanisms in his arm to allow for the retraction and protrusion of his claws. His claws would likely be on track and inside sheaths (which they were acording to old diagrams before bone claw ara). Their wouldn't be any fleash or muscle for his claws to push through just the skin on his hand... and even then sometimes those three metal dealies were drawn attached to his hands and not his gloves.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nope. He was a member of the "All New, All Different X-Men" for more then a year before we found out what his mutant ability was. At first all we knew was a) he was a mutant b) he was strong and fast and c) apparently insanely durable. The fist mention of a "healing factor" was a throw away one liner after he was bit by a Raptor and that was latter developed into his mutant ability.
when was he even written to have an adamantium laced skeleton?

Originally posted by jinzin
when was he even written to have an adamantium laced skeleton?

Good question, I'll need to think about it. Sometimes before the 80s though because in his series and in MCP he was saying stuff like "With an adamtium skeleton if I so much as tap a regular guy he is out for hours"

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nope. He was a member of the "All New, All Different X-Men" for more then a year before we found out what his mutant ability was. At first all we knew was a) he was a mutant b) he was strong and fast and c) apparently insanely durable. The fist mention of a "healing factor" was a throw away one liner after he was bit by a Raptor and that was latter developed into his mutant ability.

Hmmm...well go with that, moot anyways as time went on his healing factor greatly improved even if he did or didn't have a healing factor at that time.

He knew he was bonded with adamintium in his first apperance in the Incredible Hulk, so he should have known why he was so durable

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No wait. I just thought of something.

Wolverine HAD to have the healing factor from the start.

If not, he would've bled to death everytime he unsheathed his claws. Sure, they didn't come out and say it, but it's clear that he was meant to have some sort of healing factor. Otherwise, insane durability or not, he would've bled out everytime he went SNIKT!

I don't know why that took me so long to figure out.

ummm.. okay now you're confusing concepts for character growth... for a very long time it was believed that wolverine's claws ran on a system of levers and pulleys in his gloves... he never showcased his claws without his gloves until, uncanny 98. and when it happened everyone was shocked.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hmmm...well go with that, moot anyways as time went on his healing factor greatly improved even if he did or didn't have a healing factor at that time.

He knew he was bonded with adamintium in his first apperance in the Incredible Hulk, so he should have known why he was so durable

Is that right, KM? Do you know for sure that Wolverine already knew he was bonded with adamantium?

Cuz if so, he would've HAD to have been written with a healing factor from the very beginning.

no he didn't know from the beginning he was bonded to admantium... again.. it wasn't even revealed that his claws were in his hands for like.. what... a year or two after his first appearance. 😬

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hmmm...well go with that, moot anyways as time went on his healing factor greatly improved even if he did or didn't have a healing factor at that time.

He knew he was bonded with adamintium in his first apperance in the Incredible Hulk, so he should have known why he was so durable

I don't think he had adamantium skeleton writen into his character circa Incredible Hulk 180-183.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Is that right, KM? Do you know for sure that Wolverine already knew he was bonded with adamantium?

Cuz if so, he would've HAD to have been written with a healing factor from the very beginning.

They mentioned his claws were:

"I've got claws-forged of diamond hard adamintium and the power to back it up"

then there was several other comments about his adamintium claws. I will double check if they mentioned skelton, but I don't believe they did.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
They mentioned his claws were:

"I've got claws-forged of diamond hard adamintium and the power to back it up"

then there was several other comments about his adamintium claws. I will double check if they mentioned skelton, but I don't believe they did.

well obviously he's had admantium claws as part of his character.. but again.. those weren't even written to be a literal part of him until uncanny x-men 98 when dr. lang smacked jean accross the face and wolverine just snapped.. before then it was a mystery as to whether they were part of him or his gloves.

Originally posted by jinzin
no he didn't know from the beginning he was bonded to admantium... again.. it wasn't even revealed that his claws were in his hands for like.. what... a year or two after his first appearance. 😬
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think he had adamantium skeleton writen into his character circa Incredible Hulk 180-183.

Okay, I'm jumping in here late. So Logan did or didn't have adamantium in his first appearances?

Originally posted by badabing
Okay, I'm jumping in here late. So Logan did or didn't have adamantium in his first appearances?

Adamantium Claws? Yes. Adamatium Skeleton? No.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Adamantium Claws? Yes. Adamatium Skeleton? No.

How? Why? What issues should I read to find all this out?