Originally posted by badabing
How? Why? What issues should I read to find all this out?
What do you want know? Originally he had no healing factor, he was just fast and strong and had a set of glove with telescopic claws attached to them. Then it was revealed that is claws were bionic and where housed in his forearms. Sometime after that he we found out he had a healing factor and a adamantium skeleton. As to the why, well the answer is character development.
Originally posted by badabing
Okay, I'm jumping in here late. So Logan did or didn't have adamantium in his first appearances?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Adamantium Claws? Yes. Adamatium Skeleton? No.
Originally posted by badabing
How? Why? What issues should I read to find all this out?
hulk 181 describes that he has admantium claws...
uncanny x-men 98 shows the first time he unsheathes his claws sans a costume...
skeleton: don't know.. that's why i asked srank.
Originally posted by jinzin
well obviously he's had admantium claws as part of his character.. but again.. those weren't even written to be a literal part of him until uncanny x-men 98 when dr. lang smacked jean accross the face and wolverine just snapped.. before then it was a mystery as to whether they were part of him or his gloves.
eh? I didn't state otherwise, I just mentioned he knew about the adamintium before hand.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What do you want know? Originally he had no healing factor, he was just fast and strong and had a set of glove with telescopic claws attached to them. Then it was revealed that is claws were bionic and where housed in his forearms. Sometime after that he we found out he had a healing factor and a adamantium skeleton. As to the why, well the answer is character development.
yup.. pretty much.. remember bada.. sabretooth didn't have a healing factor or super strength or training or intelligence in his first appreances either... characters develop and things change....
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine was hit by Juggy twice before that in that issue and he didn't have a healing factor writen into his character at that point.
here is the full scan of that page.
if in any previous page he gets hit I dont know . BUT he sure as hell isnt limping in that previous panel were he says "I aint gonna qut till im dead" while slashing.
[quote]How is that a helpful or relevent scan? And the Elk and Pip feats are throwing PIS out the window? 😕
Meaning if your going to state just logans high showing then consider his low showings cannon as well.
Originally posted by Inhuman
here is the full scan of that page.if in any previous page he gets hit I dont know . BUT he sure as hell isnt limping in that previous panel were he says "I aint gonna qut till im dead" while slashing.
[quote]How is that a helpful or relevent scan? And the Elk and Pip feats are throwing PIS out the window? 😕
Meaning if your going to state just logans high showing then consider his low showings cannon as well.
no one's saying their not canon.. but feats basically come down to a line of percetages on these forums.. the percentage chance that something like the elk or pip thing happens to him is EXTREMELY low compared to the percentage chance that he takes the abuse like he usually does in the books...
that being said.. the elk and pip thing are in a very very very low percentage chance of taking place, they contradict the majority of showings that wolverine has, thus making them unlikely to happen according to his character.. you said you were throwing pis out the window by producing those feats.. but PIS is exactly what they are when you compare them to the literally HUNDREDS of higher feats that logan has which contradcit them. 😐
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What do you want know? Originally he had no healing factor, he was just fast and strong and had a set of glove with telescopic claws attached to them. Then it was revealed that is claws were bionic and where housed in his forearms. Sometime after that he we found out he had a healing factor and a adamantium skeleton. As to the why, well the answer is character development.
Originally posted by jinzin
hulk 181 describes that he has admantium claws...uncanny x-men 98 shows the first time he unsheathes his claws sans a costume...
skeleton: don't know.. that's why i asked srank.
Originally posted by jinzin
yup.. pretty much.. remember bada.. sabretooth didn't have a healing factor or super strength or training or intelligence in his first appreances either... characters develop and things change....
Originally posted by King_Mungi
He knew he was bonded with adamintium in his first apperance in the Incredible Hulk, so he should have known why he was so durable
This is what jinzin and I were confused about. It reads like you are saying that Wolverine knew he was boned with an adamantium skeleton in his first appearance. *shrugs*
Originally posted by Inhuman
ok lets throw PIS out the window.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Originally posted by Inhuman
Originally posted by Inhuman
Here he kets KO'ed by someone stronger than him with a simple backhand.
Originally posted by Inhuman
here ill help you out with another scan.
still doesnt look like he is hurt by logans "cuts".
Originally posted by capt it up
What does this prove? That Logan can get hit by a deer when he a few inches away and another person startles it? Also you assume wolverine was KOed yet he was training some one in how to be a tracker. Who to say he was merely acting KOed so that he could see his pupil in action? Also if you read the rest of the comic u realize he beat his pupil to the car meaning that he was simply pretending to be KOed
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Originally posted by jinzin
that's just not enough to put logan down, venom's not going to land enough hits fast enough for it to matter, and the moment he even starts doing that he's gonna get a gut full of claw...
Isnt Venom as fast as Spiderman?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Isn't being KOed by a deer a low showing?
Originally posted by capt it up
Whats PIS? In your opinion?What does this prove? That a teleporter can hit wolverine when he focused on another target?
What does this prove? That Logan can get hit by a deer when he a few inches away and another person startles it? Also you assume wolverine was KOed yet he was training some one in how to be a tracker. Who to say he was merely acting KOed so that he could see his pupil in action? Also if you read the rest of the comic u realize he beat his pupil to the car meaning that he was simply pretending to be KOed
To bad that was wolverine pre-written with a healing factor and really holds no value in this debate, not to mention he was hit two more times before that.
That’s aimed at the suit, not the person in the suit, but nice try.
What does it prove?
It proves that anytime Wolverine loses you automaticly disagree with it 😐
