Originally posted by StyleTimeYou know he's going to deny it nonetheless. 😆
Fixed that for you. Simple mistake. 😛
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroLMFAO. You're kidding me right? 😆 Fact is you want to believe something happened regarding Rugal and the Black Noah despite the fact you have nothing to back it up with. I gave proof of why someone wielding the DDB in battle will transform into the D.I. By the looks of it, you don't seem to have realized this yet.
Speculation with logic works farmore than it does with something you want to beleive just to make your character look good... is this too complicated for you Xeno?
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroThen I assume you haven't read the post that corrected you regarding that in Team Ninja vs. Kazuya Mishima.
Your just pissed off because you crapped on your own argument by admitting that it was ALL pure speculation based on a vague quote..
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroWrong. Murai as the D.I. was canonically more powerful than the VE as the D.I., which is the V.E.'s first form. His second form is the deity Vigoor. Why is Murai more powerul? It's the fact when V.E. transformed into the D.I., the power he possessed was being drawn from the blade, and the blade's power grows as more chaos is committed. The blade did not reach its maximum power until after the defeat of the V.E., which is when Murai wielded the blade. By then, the blade was truly an evil blade. I put that in bold for a reason. That's a quote from the game that indicates the blade's increase in power. Whether or not Murai demonstrated the increase in power in the game is irrelevant. The fact he is more powerful as the D.I. proves that he is more powerful. It's that simple. The blade's level of power when Murai wielded the blade is equal to the level of the blade's power when Ryu did, so Ryu would be as powerful as Murai when Murai transformed into the D.I.; As for asking for abilities and whatnot, Rugal has no feats whatsover as far as I'm concerned, since he has no story. He is only considered to be equal to shin gouki, and yet you're moaning about the fact Murai didn't demonstrate powers the likes of the V.E.'s.
There's a difference Xeno, I didn't tryt to make a brand spanking new character out of stuff all, who has unquantifiable, untestable, and most importantly, purely speculatory powers and abilities that have no logic to them whatsoever. I say it's entirely speculatory because the two characters who used the sword and became the D.I (Murai and the VE) had two entirely different power sets and capabilities. This directly disputes your claim that the DDB's power makes any character who uses it have a set power level.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroNeither did I use the D.I. at any point where someone wasn't bringing up G. Rugal.
I NEVER used G.Rugal... point to me where*I* specifically used him Xeno, go on , I dare you. I can tell you right now who brought that up,
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero😆 Looks like you are greatly misinformed. I brought that up so no one would b*tch about the fact Ryu using the DDB in battle isn't canon, as a few knobs such as TP already have.
but I can also tell you it took you 3 pages for you to use the fact that he was a non-canon character as an excuse towipe the egg off your face after Hayabusa was getting crushed. you back-peddaled to save your ass
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroConvincing suicide are we? Should I get you banned?
so go and jump off a bridge.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroMany dreams stay untrue unfortunately. 😆
You want to insult me for pointing outyourhorribly flawed logic and f@$#ed up speculation? be my guest, at the end of the day, it's you who is a hypocritical fanboyish *******.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroDoesn't change the fact Heihachi would pwn Geese. 😉
That video shows me about 3 seconds of air time... if he had got blown miles after miles, he would have been in the air well over 50 seconds worth, especially if he's "over the clouds"... he could have been in the air for well over 5 minutes, more than enough time to be KOed and regaigned concious mid air... fact is, nobody knows ifhe was KOed by the blast itself or not.
In a life or death battle between SF and DOA SF would win.
In fact, I can think of 3 SFs that will solo the DOA cast or Tekken cast.
If all the SF participated, of course many of them would lose but the point is that SF/KOF mid tier fighters would be fairly higher compared to DOA/Tekken.
Now go on, stone me.
Originally posted by Remulous
In a life or death battle between SF and DOA SF would win.In fact, I can think of 3 SFs that will solo the DOA cast or Tekken cast.
If all the SF participated, of course many of them would lose but the point is that SF/KOF mid tier fighters would be fairly higher compared to DOA/Tekken.
Now go on, stone me.
It's just that Street Fighter is not as high above the others as you would have us believe. They have numbers and some of their characters are indeed superpowerful(Akuma,Bison). Apart from that, DOA and Tekken has fairly good odds against them. Both games can definitely match the 2D mid tier tough.
Originally posted by StyleTimeThat stone comment wasn't directed to you, it was directed to any one who may want to.
I have no interest in flaming you and I have never flamed you in the past.It's just that Street Fighter is as high above the other as you would have us believe. They have numbers and some of their characters superpowerful(Akuma,Bison). Apart from that, DOA and Tekken has fairly good odds against them. Both games can definitely match the 2D [B]mid
tier tough. [/B]
How are the DOA or Tekken guys gonna stand against a guy who can raise mountains.
Survive nuclear explosions.
Destroy cities instantly.
Lift 2 boulders.
Send people to hell with one attack?
Destroy islands.
The KOF/SF have too many Super fighters and in terms of numbers, not counting EX, SF doesn't have that many more characters then Tekken. It's only KOF that has an outrageous amount of characters.
Originally posted by RemulousWhich Genra or True Devil Jin can destroy relatively easily.
How are the DOA or Tekken guys gonna stand against a guy who can raise mountains.
Originally posted by RemulousPretty much what the Mishimas can do. In fact, D. Jinpachi is full of flames.
Survive nuclear explosions.
Originally posted by RemulousProve anyone in SF can destroy a city instantly.
Destroy cities instantly.
Originally posted by RemulousSomething Jinpachi can do.
Lift 2 boulders.
Originally posted by RemulousWhich doesn't work in all cases such as against: Gen. Not to mention it puts the user's life at risk, and you think he can solo the entire cast with that move?
Send people to hell with one attack?
Originally posted by RemulousTrue Devil Jin was shown destroying a landscape with a mere powerup. Secondly, that island Akuma destroyed wasn't big, seeing as his strongest attack can only manage to split Ayer's rock in half. Jinpachi's final form is incredibly strong. However, we can't truly gauge his strength to say the likes of Akuma or Bison can even take him.
Destroy islands.
Originally posted by RemulousSF wins due to having more fighters, and nothing else.
The KOF/SF have too many Super fighters and in terms of numbers, not counting EX, SF doesn't have that many more characters then Tekken. It's only KOF that has an outrageous amount of characters.
Originally posted by Remulous
That stone comment wasn't directed to you, it was directed to any one who may want to.How are the DOA or Tekken guys gonna stand against a guy who can raise mountains.
Survive nuclear explosions.
Destroy cities instantly.
Lift 2 boulders.
Send people to hell with one attack?
Destroy islands.The KOF/SF have too many Super fighters and in terms of numbers, not counting EX, SF doesn't have that many more characters then Tekken. It's only KOF that has an outrageous amount of characters.
Well, Genra can raze a mountain as well. However, I specifically stated that guys like Akuma and Bison would give huge problems to the 3D side. Really though, it's the numbers that will kill them.
On a side note, I wonder would Akuma's "send you to hell" attack affect Hitomi?
Originally posted by XenogearsNo they can't, now Bison or Gill can't do that easily.
Which Genra or True Devil Jin can destroy relatively easily.
Originally posted by XenogearsHachi maybe, but no one else.
Pretty much what the Mishimas can do. In fact, D. Jinpachi is full of flames.
Originally posted by XenogearsBison did it already and Gouki sunk an island.
Prove anyone in SF can destroy a city instantly.
Originally posted by XenogearsJinpachi is the strongest in Tekken, Ryu is far from the strongest in SF yet he is comparable to Jinpachi.
Something Jinpachi can do.
Originally posted by XenogearsNo one in Tekken can do what Gen did, they don't even no how. Gouki can't solo Tekken but he will be able to whip more then half.
Which doesn't work in all cases such as against: Gen. Not to mention it puts the user's life at risk, and you think he can solo the entire cast with that move?
Originally posted by XenogearsThat was no landscape, there wasn't even anything there to destroy and Jin wasn't using a mere power up, he was summoning ALL his power. Also Land scape does not equal Goukentou which was huge, it even has mountains on it. The move he used to destroy the Ayers Rock wasn't his strongest nor did he use it at full power. Gouki's island is FAR larger then anything the Tekken guys can destroy.
True Devil Jin was shown destroying a landscape with a mere powerup. Secondly, that island Akuma destroyed wasn't big, seeing as his strongest attack can only manage to split Ayer's rock in half. Jinpachi's final form is incredibly strong. However, we can't truly gauge his strength to say the likes of Akuma or Bison can even take him.
Originally posted by XenogearsQuit dreaming. At first you said SF wouldn't win at all.
SF wins due to having more fighters, and nothing else.
No they can't, now Bison or Gill can't do that easily.
Hachi maybe, but no one else.
Bison did it already and Gouki sunk an island.
Jinpachi is the strongest in Tekken, Ryu is far from the strongest in SF yet he is comparable to Jinpachi.
No one in Tekken can do what Gen did
That was no landscape, there wasn't even anything there to destroy and Jin wasn't using a mere power up, he was summoning ALL his power. Also Land scape does not equal Goukentou which was huge, it even has mountains on it. The move he used to destroy the Ayers Rock wasn't his strongest nor did he use it at full power. Gouki's island is FAR larger then anything the Tekken guys can destroy.
Quit dreaming. At first you said SF wouldn't win at all.
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22-No one in Tekken can destroy a mountain.
devil jin wrecked the whole forest...but of course now you want someone to stand there and time if for you so you can be sure.
oh and Feng Wei, afte reading thsoe scrolls, could destroy a whole mountain without much effort...in fact it seemed effort less.
before you ramble, the mishima's stole that scroll from his school and Hachi is the one who did that. in fact Hachi's "iron hand" move is a ditto of the move, Feng did. so...I'm pretty sure Hachi can do the same since Feng is barely midtier of Tekken.Jin is stronger the Hachi. Kaz is almost as powerful. Paul is about as Tough as Kazuya. Hworang is pretty good too. that's four right off the bat.
Bison never did with his own powers. i'd love to see that moron do it without the psychodrive pumping him with power. gouki can't either. he cracked ayres rock.....the guy couldn't even destroy the submarine he was pounding.
and is how is that?
ryu could barely lift it after training with Oro. Jinpachi picks it up and tossed it far away.do what...die of lukemia?😄
as for sending people to hell 😆
hands down that is the most retarded thing i've heard in fighting games.
"ooh, look at me, i've trained so much that i can take my opponents to hell". and i'm sure if someone taught them...they could. you're talking like akuma can do the shitgoukusatsu because he is so powerful. the fact of the matter is he can pull that move off, because he learnt how to do it. if hachi and company were taught they could pull it off too.the rocky land that freaking blew off to the point that it was raining down, doesn't count?
and of course you took your fanboy power meter and measured to see if he was actually using his full power of just powering up....right?
so wait....if a person at a weaker form wrecks up a whole forest, then he needs all his new found power to destroy the area around him?quit dreaming yourself...Kazuya pwns Ryu so badly its not even funny. Jin will down right rape him.
~Sado
-Jin is better then Hachi, but he doesn't have to be more durable.
-Gouki splits Ayers Rock, the Earth's belly button, that's pretty powerful. He sunk an island the size of a city and he blew that sub to bits wit one kick. Do you even know what your talking about Sado.
-You have the nerve to call me a fanboy when your saying Jinpachi can take 2 boulders and toss them when he has never been seen lifting one.
Dude, you know nothing about SF, you have to have the Dark Hadou to do the Shungokusatasu, in which no one in Tekken poseses, even if they knew how to do it, they could never preform it. And the Shungokusatsu beats the bloody hell out of all of Tekken's shitty ass moves combined.
You call me a fanboy, when you start making feats sound more powerful then they really are and ALWAYS say the characters acomplish them with ease. Before you call someone a fanboy, try looking in the mirror, if being a fanboy is your goal in life, you will be most pleased with your self.
- Let's get serious Sado, Kaz will damn near lose to Vega, and Jin can't even scratch Roy Browell.
Originally posted by Remulous
-No one in Tekken can destroy a mountain.Dude, you know nothing about SF, you have to have the Dark Hadou to do the Shungokusatasu, in which no one in Tekken poseses, even if they knew how to do it, they could never preform it. And the Shungokusatsu beats the bloody hell out of all of Tekken's shitty ass moves combined.
- Let's get serious Sado, Kaz will damn near lose to Vega, and Jin can't even scratch Roy Browell.
The point is....it won't affect Hitomi.
Why would Vega give Kazuya trouble?
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
When did he level a moutain?
Originally posted by StyleTime
I'd think it's better we maintain that he leveled the mountain. Otherwise, Genra has reality or space manipulating abilitities, which means he's even more of a threat.Damn you Team Ninja!
It makes less sense if we saw it that way. He leveled a mountain which miraculously contained the castle ruins?