The 'emo' sterotype and discription is ridiculous

Originally posted by BlackC@
Everyone knows what the emo image is, so I wont go in to that.

I think it's ridiculous. Having teenage depression does not make you emo. I know people that wear tight, black pants, are suicidal and cut themselves and HATE emo music. They love bands like Black Sabbath, Metallica, Led Zepplin, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, etc. That does not make them emo.

It's stupid. I have yet to meet someone that is actually emo.

One of my friends got a new hair cut, he died it dark brown and got it parted with an angled fringe. One of our friends teased him for being emo. Having a hair style does not make him emo.

YOUR ARE ONLY EMO IF YOU LISTEN TO EMO MUSIC!!!!

To me, emo is not a look, it's a music GENRE.

This whole "Emo people are whiney teenagers that listen to Simple Plan, wear black clothes, eye liner, ***** about how bad their lives are while cutting themselves" is such a ridiculous image.
I'm so tired of hearing about it.

Not once have I ever come across a so called 'emo' teenager.

thats goes into punk...its a genre and a fashion

edit:the whole look associated with emo music(black clothes,eyeliner,the covering of one eye,wearing tight clothes,etc.)is considred emo...no matter what music you listen too

Nobody who ever knew what punk stood for would ever legitimately claim that.

-AC

punk is a fashion though, AC. when it started out it was anti-fashion, as was the whole hippie movement, but we know how that turned out. it becomes a hypocrisy, containing far more fashion regulations than if they genuinly chose to not give a shit...which was the whole purpose

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Nobody who ever knew what punk stood for would ever legitimately claim that.

-AC

exactly..I prefer heavy metal...but i still like many old punk bands(the misfits,ramones,dead kennedys and stuff like that)

edit: what PVS just said is true

i forgot to add: often far more fashion regulations than the social norm they reject.

Most of the Emo kids in my town listen to John Denver, so I don't think it's necessarily fair to stereotype them as a whole. I honestly can't think of a more intimidating thing than a bunch of kids in all black and eyeliner, chanting "Sunshine on my Shoulders makes me happy" at me in front of a mall.

Originally posted by botankus
Most of the Emo kids in my town listen to John Denver, so I don't think it's necessarily fair to stereotype them as a whole. I honestly can't think of a more intimidating thing than a bunch of kids in all black and eyeliner, chanting "Sunshine on my Shoulders makes me happy" at me in front of a mall.

i would grab the nearest blunt object and charge them screaming "QUICK!!! KILL IT!!! KILL IT!!!!"

Originally posted by PVS
i would grab the nearest blunt object and charge them screaming "QUICK!!! KILL IT!!! KILL IT!!!!"

i did that once...ONCE

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
lets not kid ourselves. Most of the emo's are just attention seeking teens who want to be noticed by society and be considered by everyone when it comes to the bigger picture, and preach about unconformity.

"I don't need to conform, I'm my own person, I don't need to be like everyone else"

Since when has modesty been conforming?

Saying "I'm my own person, I don't need to be like everyone else" is a strength.

I have never come across some 'emo' attention-seeking teen. I have come across a fair few depressed teens, they are not emo and don't cry for attention, they cry for help. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

How many attention-seeking emo teens that whine about how bad their lives are when they seem to have a pretty good life have you come across?
I've come across 0. A big fat 0.
I doubt anyone here every really has, they hear about them and assume that they exist.

I can say i've met them, in most aspects of my life. Highschool was full of them, i worked with several over the time i've spent working. Just because people assume that the emo sterotype is soley based on the peope who cut themselves dosn't mean that there arn't the emo kids who seek attention through complaining about their lives.

The emo emu would not be pleased.

thats the aussie version of emo, Spiderbate and You Am I have taken it as their own

Originally posted by PVS
punk is a fashion though, AC. when it started out it was anti-fashion, as was the whole hippie movement, but we know how that turned out. it becomes a hypocrisy, containing far more fashion regulations than if they genuinly chose to not give a shit...which was the whole purpose

Calling the fashion "punk", just because it was associated with punk simply doesn't fly with me. Punk was the name of the genre.

-AC

it also became a way of life, a way of thinking and a way of acting, much like emo has.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Calling the fashion "punk", just because it was associated with punk simply doesn't fly with me. Punk was the name of the genre.

-AC

doesnt matter if it fies with you, since its been flying with the vast majority for about 30 years.

i'm no fan of the "punk" fashion either, but just because Emo began life as a genre title dosn't mean it hasn't evolved in time. Much like punk and pop

That's where your ignorance rears it's head.

There was no "evolution", Tabby. It was, if anything, creationism in music. You don't look at what scenekids (the correct label, if any) label as emo (Taking Back Sunday and My Chemical Romance) and think of Fugazi, Minor Threat or Rites of Spring, do you? No. So therefore, it's not evolution. Nothing ties those bands to emo, and they don't consider themselves anything to do with emo.

Someone thought "Emo is dead, I'll attach the term to something entirely different.", and kids lapped it up.

Originally posted by tabby999
it also became a way of life, a way of thinking and a way of acting, much like emo has.

Emo is false, though. People say emo as in "Emotional", but they don't apply it to emotion, they apply it to sadness, which is dumb. If emo was to mean emotional, then it applies to anyone being happy.

Emo has and always will mean the genre, to those with any sense.

Furthermore, you use emo as a term for cutters, or people who cut. The two aren't inherently linked, as I've proven. That's just blind ignorance on your part, but then we know about you and ignorance.

Originally posted by PVS
doesnt matter if it fies with you, since its been flying with the vast majority for about 30 years.

So what? The vast majority have had a shared opinion for 30 years, big deal. It's an opinion nonetheless, it's not a fact. I'll take John Lydon, Ian Mackaye and Joe Strummer's opinions over the "vast majority", thanks.

It's a fashion associated with punk, and calling it punk is as stupid as calling someone a "metal" or a "pop", or even a "rock".

You wouldn't do it, because it's simply retarded. For metal, people use the term "metalhead". As in, someone associated with metal music, they don't call the clothing "metal".

Majority opinion never concerns me because:

A) It's still an opinion.

and B) Never usually a very good one.

So you can sit there saying "The fashion is called punk!", and I'll say "It's not.". You can't prove me wrong, but the evidence is clear that it was simply a fashion associated with punk.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
There was no "evolution", Tabby. It was, if anything, creationism in music. You don't look at what scenekids (the correct label, if any) label as emo (Taking Back Sunday and My Chemical Romance) and think of Fugazi, Minor Threat or Rites of Spring, do you? No. So therefore, it's not evolution. Nothing ties those bands to emo, and they don't consider themselves anything to do with emo.

No-one wants to be associated with Emo anymore, because its become a dirty word. Emo started with Fugazi and Minor Threat, the origional emo bands. And it CHANGED. You can't say the rest of the music scene changed and the term "emo" has stayed exactly as it was.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Majority opinion never concerns me because:

A) It's still an opinion.

and B) Never usually a very good one.

So you can sit there saying "The fashion is called punk!", and I'll say "It's not.". You can't prove me wrong, but the evidence is clear that it was simply a fashion associated with punk.

-AC

Yes, you have an OPINION, so do i. Theres nothing that makes your opinion more factual than mine. And its obvious that your not going to change your opinion thanks to the rather closed minded "you can't prove me wrong."

Originally posted by tabby999
No-one wants to be associated with Emo anymore, because its become a dirty word. Emo started with Fugazi and Minor Threat, the origional emo bands. And it CHANGED. You can't say the rest of the music scene changed and the term "emo" has stayed exactly as it was.

I know perfectly well how it started, and it did change, but it also died out. There're a few bands making traditional emo, but they're not exactly famous. The bands that were around when emo legitimately did move onto what's known as the second wave, have even moved away from that area of music.

The bands labelled as emo today are nothing to do with emo, and it isn't evolution. You believe it is, proof shows it isn't.

Originally posted by tabby999
Yes, you have an OPINION, so do i. Theres nothing that makes your opinion more factual than mine. And its obvious that your not going to change your opinion thanks to the rather closed minded "you can't prove me wrong."

Firstly, I don't consider myself a grammar nazi, but please sort out the your/you're.

Anyway, it's not my opinion that the music LABELLED as emo today (Taking Back Sunday, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance) are not emo, or that they didn't evolve from emo. It's there if you look at the history.

They didn't evolve from Minor Threat, Fugazi, Rites of Spring, Jawbreaker etc. You can't trace their music back to those bands. So for you to call it evolution is silly.

-AC

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