Whos good and whos evil?

Not in SW...

... no.

No.

....um...yes.

Uh,... no

And what good could he have been trying to do?

erm....yes.

Who?

Dooku.

And the question is irrelevant. Dooku wasn't trying to do good, whicjh is what Tangible is getting at. That;s just not the area Star Wars looks at.

Originally posted by Alliance
You don't think that people can do "evil" actions while trying to do "good."

Nowhere near Dooku that is.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Dooku.

And the question is irrelevant. Dooku wasn't trying to do good, whicjh is what Tangible is getting at. That;s just not the area Star Wars looks at.

Star Wars never really looked at Dooku's motivation. We are just told he's evil.

He says that the Republic needs to start over....a valid point given the corruption in the Senate.

All we need to know is that he's evil. SW is not an arena of subtleties.

Absolutely. He is on the Dark Side, therefore he is evil. The corruption was brought by evil which Dooku had joined forces with, not decided to fight against.

Ush for God.

Star Wars has it subtleties... Each small amendment passed by the Chancellor is a subtle move towards empire...Pademe's comments over II and III are subtle increases in the Rebellion's philosophies.

While Lucas does use the "this character is evil, lets move on...." (example, Grievous). He does not use that with Anakin.

Because he's the main character tossed about by the forces of good and evil. Lucas always said it was about choice between the two, hence they are black or white, no grey areas....

But Anakin expressed grey areas...whether Lucas recognizes it or not.

"I feel lost" THAT is a blinding grey area.

Anakin yes, in a way.... but not the rest. He is the chooser, the others are the ones he has to choose between. And his choice is between good or evil, so when he says "I feel lost" he either needs directions to the Jedi Temple, or he is in the process of choosing, doubting between good and evil... He doesn't like the good side a hell of a lot, and the evil side has a lot to offer apparantly... So there he is, a whiny lost boy.

He was always whiny.

Since Anakin was a central character, the audience does not treat him as if he is either good or evil...there is a slide involved. This is why many people had trouble with this fall. We know there is good and evil in him...he is a mix. He may choose to emphasize one or the other, but both are always there. He is grey.

IMO, Anakin was always a confused, whiny child, who'd go on to take the route of ease and evil. In this particular sense, the OT ruined what could have been salvaged from Hayden's portrayel of Anakin.

Anakin WAS grey, the whole "I'm lost" thing and all. The only reason I had trouble with his fall was due to the abruptness of it, not the reasons behind it.