Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
I think that DC gave it's favorite character the best-of-the-best abilities. You rarely see someone very linear with their powers who's one of their bigger guys in their universe. Insane speed, insane strength, insane durability, etc.In my opinion, lots of the guys in DC are in no way compatible to Marvel - they're just too powerful. That's why Marvel fans bring out the cosmics to fight DC heroes. no one's going to be able to put down a man with a cape that can move galaxies around and hold black holes in his hand unless it's some type of otherworldly being.
Superman makes me SICK!! He always wins!!! But that doesn't mean marvel doesn't have guys that can't kick his butt, without getting cosmic. Gladiator can beat Superman. He's faster, as strong if not stronger, and a hell of a lot better fighter. Beta Ray bill can do it. Sentry might even be able to. Hell with all those powers, I don't see why he can't. In reality, Superman is a cosmic being tho. He just lives on Earth. He absorbs solar energy, which is a cosmic source. Many of DC's premier heroes are in reality cosmic beings,gods and Goddesses, and powerful mystichs. Marvel was just smart enough to spread thier Power houses out thru out the universe. Making thier universe seem bigger and more varies. They both have mirror power lvls tho.
Re: DC comics overpowering
Originally posted by The-Judge
except for batman, is it just me, or is every hero from dc totally overpowered?superman
spectre
green lantern
flash
wonderwomanand so on
The premise of your question is far too subjective for there to be a definitive answer, yes or no. Perhaps what we should be asking is are DC heroes overpowered to the point where the quality of their stories is harmed. I'd say no to that. Any writer worth his salt can write entertaining stories about any person/team no matter what their level of power is be it street or cosmic. The quality of DC's (and Marvel's) books are not so much a reflection of the characters on the page as they are the work of the hired talent.
For example the Silver Surfer is one of the most powerful "heroes" in comics and a personal favorite of mine. Now if he had a series that was unoriginal and of poor quality, should I blame SS and the fact that he has a massive assortment of powers or should I blame the people responsible for writing/publishing the series?
DC shouldn't be lambasted because they chose to go in a different directions (ie having more powerful heroes in general) than Marvel, and Marvel shouldn't be censured for focusing on more street-level characters. It's only a mater of personal tastes and one can find good cosmic and street level charcters in both companies.
Superman makes me SICK!! He always wins!!! But that doesn't mean marvel doesn't have guys that can't kick his butt, without getting cosmic. Gladiator can beat Superman. He's faster, as strong if not stronger, and a hell of a lot better fighter. Beta Ray bill can do it. Sentry might even be able to. Hell with all those powers, I don't see why he can't. In reality, Superman is a cosmic being tho. He just lives on Earth. He absorbs solar energy, which is a cosmic source. Many of DC's premier heroes are in reality cosmic beings,gods and Goddesses, and powerful mystichs. Marvel was just smart enough to spread thier Power houses out thru out the universe. Making thier universe seem bigger and more varies. They both have mirror power lvls tho.
Its not just that he wins all the time. To me its more like, he is almost always involved in all matters of earthly or universal threats. And he is always a key to deafeating the evil. Him or his millions of versions of him. One more powerfull than the other. As it stands now there is one version of supes to take on any task at hand. 🙄
I wouldnt have problem with him if DC left him at one powerlevel, and stoped altering his strength and others powers around. Plus adding new powers to his arsenal. I would start to actually take supes serious.
I mean he is strong enough to move solar systems or whatever that stupidly ridiculous feat was. 🙄
I love spiderman, but i wouldnt want him kicking galactus's ass. Or being involved in every cosmic or earthly threat. As much as I like spidey, most of the time he knows his place(and so do the writters). Thats why its more enjoyable to like characters like this(for me anyway).
The Martian Manhunter is like a swiss army knife of multiple powers, which is kind of annoying. Super strength, near invunerability, flight, telepathy, psi blast, heat vision, intangibility, shape-shifting, illusion casting blah blah blah...
...and then they give him this lame weakness to fire. I mean, in the course of huge battles, you're going to see a lot of fire(s). It renders him almost useless in the face of a campfire.
Originally posted by Big Sexy
Actually the only difference I really see in both companies is where the focus is placed. The Big Seven are more or less DCS focal point whereas marvels bread and butter is the X-men, Avengers, Spiderman. Both have their share of overpowered beings.
The main factor is also that the DC Universe has a lot more magic than the Marvel universe. The mutant factor wasn't enough for marvel. Jean becoming The Phoenix...Wolverine absurd healing factor...Juggernaut near invincible... and then Bullseye's adamentium? This is what annoys about Marvel. Fine, upgrade the characters...but not altering them so much.
They're cool enough without all that junk. That is why I hate Ultimate Marvel. This is the same rule I apply to DC. If they were to take Batman and all of the sudden he lifts a train or starts flying without his gadgets I would skin those writers alive.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Marvel = Great midtier range of heroes and badguys. Top tier often jobs to the street side, which is hella annoying.
Usually more traditional with the villains being much more powerful than the badguys. Marvel villains exist, because the heroes aren't powerful enough to destroy them all.DC = Either street, or top tier. Their middle is floundering, alot. Top tier jobs at times, but only to the Batfamily. Them alone. Deathstroke is part of the batfamily.
Same reactive heroes, but many times, the heroes allow the badguys to exist and do bad, since they have a no kill clause for the most part.
The popular ones, that is.
DC, alot of villains tend to exist, cuz the heroes tend to wanna stay above them in morale certainty.
Though keeping them alive is endangering more people than you can imagine.Marvel cosmics aren't even that powerful in relation.
The most powerful hero Marvel has, is likely to be the Surfer.People say that they have more powerful cosmics, only cuz they are seen more.
Funny thing about DC though. They never thought to give their badguys supersets. High brick types that is.
Despero would own if he could run at mach 134 and react at lightspeed.
As would DD and Grundy ect.
But Superman and the Marvels can. So when they don't, it really pisses alot of people off.Imo, villains should clearly be more powerful than badguys. No point in going after someone who can beat the stuffing outta you. Thats clearly idiotic.
Villains should have no reason to fear heroes.
It should be the other way around.
Because even if i can throw a punch that levels cities, if i have an archnemisis that can do the same, but five hundred times in one second, you better believe he won't be my main nemesis long.
Superman my arch rival?? Nah. Moving down the line to Superboy i'll be.I don't have a problem with Superman physically being stronger than Darky.
If this Darky is the continuation of Kirby Darkseid, its to be expected.
My problem comes when Superman sees Darky. Or even finds out who's behind last years Superhero massacre.
Darky should always remain behind the scenes, pulling strings and other dastardly machinations.
He's like the ultimate plotter, with an unbeatable attack that he can hit you with from another dimension.
There is no need for me to leave my house to see you, if i can shoot you with a laser from my attic.How Darky got into the mix, i'll never know.