About Anakin

Anakin, no father; Luke, father fig. in Uncle Owen

Anakin goes bad, Luke turns out good.

Does anyone have a problem with that?

Originally posted by queeq
I prefer IIIc to be called Dining with the Tuskens

Originally posted by chinabing
Anakin, no father; Luke, father fig. in Uncle Owen

Anakin goes bad, Luke turns out good.

Does anyone have a problem with that?

Not really...you could say that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were father figures to Anakin.

Originally posted by Alliance
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Not really...you could say that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were father figures to Anakin.

Obi-Wan was his brother. 😐

He loved him. loveshower

Originally posted by Alliance
Not really...you could say that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were father figures to Anakin.

Luke had a father figure for 20 long years.

Anakin had Qui-Gon for 15 minutes, and Obi-Wan for 10 years. Not the same as being there as he grows up.

Where was Obi-Wan when Anakin got an "A" in Huttese?
Where was Obi-Wan when Anakin built his first speeder?
Where was Obi-Wan when Anakin leared to ride his first Eopie?

There's more to being a father than bossing people around!

That's the job of a distressed housewife.

Originally posted by chinabing
Luke had a father figure for 20 long years.

Anakin had Qui-Gon for 15 minutes, and Obi-Wan for 10 years. Not the same as being there as he grows up.

Where was Obi-Wan when Anakin got an "A" in Huttese?
Where was Obi-Wan when Anakin built his first speeder?
Where was Obi-Wan when Anakin leared to ride his first Eopie?

There's more to being a father than bossing people around!

Anakin had all his friends and mentors at the Academy.

Luke had Tuskens.

And his Jawa drinkin' buddies, don't forget.

Nothing screems "help!" like hanging with a drunken Jawa.

I'd get drunk with a jawa, cant say I wont slap the little B*tch.
anyway, jediR out...

And don't foget that Luke wasn't a slave, he had lots of time to build sandcastles... Just check out the Lars residence...

"Uncle Owen.....UNCLE OWEN!"

Maybe Luke did those paintings in their house....

Originally posted by Alliance
Anakin had all his friends and mentors at the Academy.

Luke had Tuskens.

Maybe Dan Quayle was right. Look what happened to Luke when he had a strong father, he turned out right. I read a story in the paper how when this guy was a boy he idolized Luke, but now that he's an adult, he's a big Uncle Owen fan. He realized how right uncle Owen was by telling Luke not to "waste time with his friends" until his chores were done. Ya think you'll get a chum at the academy to tell ya that?

Um...yeah...because all those teaching about religon and civil service probably did nothing....

That's what fathers do, they instill a moral code at a young age, and keep it going as the child grows.

Even with the all the teachings Anakin learned he still went bad. Some kids with single-parent homes turn out great, some don't. Anakin was a great kid until he was tempted by the Sith.

But when you try to figure out why Anakin went bad, and his son turned out good, the parent factor has to be mentioned.

Originally posted by chinabing
Some kids with ________________ turn out great, some don't.

Yes....I'd agree with that statement.

Originally posted by chinabing
But when you try to figure out why Anakin went bad, and his son turned out good, the parent factor has to be mentioned.

Good point. There goed Lucas's theory about choice... 😂

You can mention the parent factor, but it doesn't mean that it has any effects.

Common sense says it would.

Anakin, Luke = No father

Anakin - has mother (who dies)
Luke - has Uncle Owen, Aunt Beru (who dies)

Anakin - loves Padme (who dies)
Luke - arguably interested in Leia (who turns out to be his sister)

Anakin - has Obi-Wan as mentor
Luke - has Obi-Wan and Yoda as mentor

Anakin - was seduced by Palpatine
Luke - attempted seduction by Vader AND Palpatine

To tell you the truth i dont see much difference between this father and son except Anakin has one mentor and only one seducer while Luke has two mentors and thus TWO seducers. Ok i know Anakin was helplessly and possessively in love with Padme, not equal to Luke-Leia mild 'flirtation'. But still there's no reason for Anakin to turn, and Luke did not.

Luke redeems Anakin, so yeah he's the real facility around here.