Thor (vs) Superman

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Where did I attack you? Anti matter has powered Superman. Superman has resisted magical transmuation on a far far higher level than Thor...unless you think Thor can turn WW back into clay... Supes absorbed a god killing concentrated anti sun, no hammer needed.., taken a direct blast from the astro force...ect.

X-over or not, that WAS canon. We can't disregard simply because we don't like. Nobody has had defense to Torquasm Vo and that includes Thor. In all fairness, Thor rarely uses the exotic powers as Superman rarely uses T-vo.

Toning down Supes to not having Superspeed does remove some of his niftier tricks, but my opinion is still...

5/5 each way normal speed as happened ON PANEL.
Full Speed 7-8/10 Supes (or even Flash) over Thor.

You never attacked me, I didn't say that. I just told posters, not particularly you to not attack about me saying I think Thor would defeat Supes. 😛

And Thor has absorbed a blast that would have destroyed a 5th of the universe. He's been shown to absorb blast and return them to the user at 10 fold what it was when it was directed towards him. I mean Supes has his high showings, but so does Thor. Just because Supes has taken some uber blast that doesn't mean he's just gonna shrug off all of Thor's attack, just like just because Thor has defeated Galactus it doesn't mean he's going to hog Tyrant.

Know I disregard the X-over, because posters here have stated that Marvel has never stated that it was cannon. Now I know that for DC it's cannon, but I don't think it's been stated for Marvel.😬

No Speed 9/10 Thor
with speed 6/10 Thor

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Now correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Thor have to summon his more exotic powers? I know he had to against Juggy and in the scans I posted above he was summining lightning against Glads before the fight was stopped. I guess my point is I don't think Supes is gonna stand there while Thor summons a obscure attack.

No he doesn't. Now some, such as the pure lightning attack, but not all.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You never attacked me, I didn't say that. I just told posters, not particularly you to not attack about me saying I think Thor would defeat Supes. 😛

And Thor has absorbed a blast that would have destroyed a 5th of the universe. He's been shown to absorb blast and return them to the user at 10 fold what it was when it was directed towards him. I mean Supes has his high showings, but so does Thor. Just because Supes has taken some uber blast that doesn't mean he's just gonna shrug off all of Thor's attack, just like just because Thor has defeated Galactus it doesn't mean he's going to hog Tyrant.

Know I disregard the X-over, because posters here have stated that Marvel has never stated that it was cannon. Now I know that for DC it's cannon, but I don't think it's been stated for Marvel.😬

No Speed 9/10 Thor
with speed 6/10 Thor

If it's acknowledged in the grandmasters bio...it's good enough for me.
😉

Besides..my guy has won on panel, and will probably always do so. Victory is sweet. 😆

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You never attacked me, I didn't say that. I just told posters, not particularly you to not attack about me saying I think Thor would defeat Supes. 😛

And Thor has absorbed a blast that would have destroyed a 5th of the universe. He's been shown to absorb blast and return them to the user at 10 fold what it was when it was directed towards him. I mean Supes has his high showings, but so does Thor. Just because Supes has taken some uber blast that doesn't mean he's just gonna shrug off all of Thor's attack, just like just because Thor has defeated Galactus it doesn't mean he's going to hog Tyrant.

Know I disregard the X-over, because posters here have stated that Marvel has never stated that it was cannon. Now I know that for DC it's cannon, but I don't think it's been stated for Marvel.😬

No Speed 9/10 Thor
with speed 6/10 Thor

Superman stalemates him without super speed. 🙂 Torquasm-Vo kills.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Where did I attack you? Anti matter has powered Superman. Superman has resisted magical transmuation on a far far higher level than Thor...unless you think Thor can turn WW back into clay... Supes absorbed a god killing concentrated anti sun, no hammer needed.., taken a direct blast from the astro force...ect.

X-over or not, that WAS canon. We can't disregard simply because we don't like. Nobody has had defense to Torquasm Vo and that includes Thor. In all fairness, Thor rarely uses the exotic powers as Superman rarely uses T-vo.

Toning down Supes to not having Superspeed does remove some of his niftier tricks, but my opinion is still...

5/5 each way normal speed as happened ON PANEL.
Full Speed 7-8/10 Supes (or even Flash) over Thor.

Agreed

With these stipulations, the edge goes to Thor due to his overwhelming power advantage.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If it's acknowledged in the grandmasters bio...it's good enough for me.
😉

Besides..my guy has won on panel, and will probably always do so. Victory is sweet. 😆

Hehehe

Originally posted by Accel
With these stipulations, the edge goes to Thor due to his overwhelming power advantage.

Uh going by on panel evidence in a cannon xover, Supes trumps Thor in power, durability, and endurance.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Uh going by on panel evidence in a cannon xover, Supes trumps Thor in power, durability, and endurance.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Uh going by on panel evidence in a cannon xover, Supes trumps Thor in power, durability, and endurance.

That is an interesting view of what the book showed.

Originally posted by Accel
By "power advantage," I mean versatility and raw cosmic power. Thor has many more powers at his disposal than Supes. I would imagine that this fight would actually be much more than them swing at each other like that, with or without super-speed.

You act as if Supes is nothing but a flying brick, when supes has shown to be able to manipulate and abosrb (the sun eater for example), he also has T-vo which trumps Thor and almost any other character (skyfather, abstract etc. I.E. Domiru).

Thor can get as fancy with his hammer as he wants but T-vo trumps Thor instantly, unlike the asgardian godblast which isn't instant, fullproof, and can miss, T-vo is instant, is fullproof, and doesn't "miss".

Is it really that hard to grasp,that Supes is not beating Thor without Superspeed?

Seriously what is Superman without his Speed?Yeah that's right a strong guy who can fly.That's hardly enough to pull a win against Thor.T-Vo this T-vo that people ignore the fact that Thor has his share of pis powers in his arsenal.

Thor wins every time if Supes doesn't have Super Speed.

Lets see someone counter my comments without mentioning PIS-Vo.

Originally posted by Jesse7
You act as if Supes is nothing but a flying brick, when supes has shown to be able to manipulate and abosrb (the sun eater for example), he also has T-vo which trumps Thor and almost any other character (skyfather, abstract etc. I.E. Domiru).

Thor can get as fancy with his hammer as he wants but T-vo trumps Thor instantly, unlike the asgardian godblast which isn't instant, fullproof, and can miss, T-vo is instant, is fullproof, and doesn't "miss".

Originally posted by Skeets
Is it really that hard to grasp,that Supes is not beating Thor without Superspeed?

Seriously what is Superman without his Speed?Yeah that's right a strong guy who can fly.That's hardly enough to pull a win against Thor.T-Vo this T-vo that people ignore the fact that Thor has his share of pis powers in his arsenal.

thor wins every time if Supes doesn't have Super Speed.

T-Vo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Domiru>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thor

That and as Avalon put so nicely, in the cannon xover neither Thor nor Supes used super speed, Thor used his hammer and produced cosmic/mystical blast with it too, Supes was able to take a full blown charged magicaly enriched Hammer blow to the head unaware, and then proceeded to get back up a few seconds later, Thor on the other hand was KO'ED by Supes with 3 punches.

P.S. Supes also caught Mjolnir mid swing and overpowered Thor, Supes was also able to counter Thors Mystical/cosmic hammer blast with heat vision.

Originally posted by Accel
I get he has T-Vo. However, Thor just has so much more than one major power like that. He could absorb the solar energy from Superman's body, warp him right next to a red sun, shrink him and trap him into a small sphere (ala Hyperion), etc.

Do you not know of Supes "Bio-Field" It means Thor isn't going to be absorbing anything from Supes, do you think Thor would be the first one to try Absorbtion on Supes? Nor is Thor the first nor is he even close to being the most powerful of beings who have or would have tried it on supes, and guess what it....it doesn't work.

Originally posted by Jesse7
T-Vo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Domiru>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thor

That and as Avalon put so nicely, in the cannon xover neither Thor nor Supes used super speed, Thor used his hammer and produced cosmic/mystical blast with it too, Supes was able to take a full blown charged magicaly enriched Hammer blow to the head unaware, and then proceeded to get back up a few seconds later, Thor on the other hand was KO'ED by Supes with 3 punches.

P.S. Supes also caught Mjolnir mid swing and overpowered Thor, Supes was also able to counter Thors Mystical/cosmic hammer blast with heat vision.

Originally posted by Skeets
Lets see someone counter my comments without mentioning PIS-Vo.

Originally posted by Jesse7
T-Vo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Domiru>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thor

That and as Avalon put so nicely, in the cannon xover neither Thor nor Supes used super speed, Thor used his hammer and produced cosmic/mystical blast with it too, Supes was able to take a full blown charged magicaly enriched Hammer blow to the head unaware, and then proceeded to get back up a few seconds later, Thor on the other hand was KO'ED by Supes with 3 punches.

P.S. Supes also caught Mjolnir mid swing and overpowered Thor, Supes was also able to counter Thors Mystical/cosmic hammer blast with heat vision.

It's DOMINUS!!!! 😐

Originally posted by Jesse7
Do you not know of Supes "Bio-Field" It means Thor isn't going to be absorbing anything from Supes, do you think Thor would be the first one to try Absorbtion on Supes? Nor is Thor the first nor is he even close to being the most powerful of beings who have or would have tried it on supes, and guess what it....it doesn't work.

Originally posted by Skeets
So using your obviously flawed logic.godblast>>>>Celestial/Galactus>>>>>>Superman.

lol skeets, face it T-vo trumps and kills Thor every time 10/10, no super speed is needed for T-vo.

Domiru who is an abstract level who has everything that Thor has and MUCH MUCH more was completely anihilated by Supes T-vo.

Thor is going down quick and hes going down hard to T-vo time and time again.

Originally posted by Skeets
So using your obviously flawed logic.godblast>>>>Celestial/Galactus>>>>>>Superman.