Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Oops... 😮 Got mixed up between the 2 threads.If limited to the same speeds, then it's dead even.
In all Honesty, I really don't see this as a dead even fight. Thor has too many powers at his disposal that may not put Supes down early, but would eventually dispose of him. I mean really, Thor has so many powers that could put down supes it's not even funny.
Thor 8-9/10 😬
Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's the thing Avalon. People automatcally think Superman looses when magic is involved.
No, I don't think thats it. I think it's just the fact that Thor has so many abilities that put him above Supes, that many people believe he should defeat Supes. That in the fact that Thor can match all Supes attributes except speed. The same can't be said about Supes when compared to Thor.😬
Originally posted by D-BlockThor has a level 7 rating due to his ability to teleport. The same with Dr. Strange and Mikhakl Rasputin. Those guys have level 7 speed also but that does not mean they can actually MOVE that fast. Superman can however.
Supes would lose to Thor if he had no weakness to magic at all Thor just outclasses superman when it comes to power period. And Supes could not speedblitz Thor even if they could use superspeed in this fight Thor isn't slow he is listed as 7out of 7 when it comes to speed.
Speed kills and Supes has lots of it. Thor may be fast but his best speed feat makes him look like a snail next to Superman.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
In all Honesty, I really don't see this as a dead even fight. Thor has too many powers at his disposal that may not put Supes down early, but would eventually dispose of him. I mean really, Thor has so many powers that could put down supes it's not even funny.Thor 8-9/10 😬
You would. I see it as dead even at most. Superman is still Thors physical superior in every way.
Thor's hammer is his source of power and we have already seen that Superman can both take a hit when unaware (when he's weakest to a 'magical' attack) and when aware has CAUGHT the hammer in mid swing.
Thors best bet is a godblast, while Supes can use Torquasm Vo.
Neither is immune to the others trump card.
No speed 5/5
Full speed 7-8/10 for Supes.
I like thor and superman is ok, but i have to be honest, superman would woop thors ass into next week, it would defintly be a great fight, probably last really long, but i dont see thor taking supes out, i mean hulk picked up thors hammer and smashed him in the head with it and knocked him out, Thos is the son of a god and he should be able to win, but loosing to hulk was just an upset, i mean dont get me wrong hulk is great at hulk smash but to take out a god, and then i must remind you that big blue also took out the hulk, so i defintly think supes would woop the son of odins ass. Sorry thor, you better start praying to daddy cuz the man of steel wins right after he realizes your like a god and he has to push his power to the full limit. Superman at full power level and rage would wipe Thor out.
lol yeah i know bad point its a cartoon, but still besides that i still dont think thor at full power level against supes at full power level still is not gonna win, supes always holds back, if he lets go its a rap, ive seen superman go crazzy and its not a pretty, i believe if supes goes into a fury rage, thor is seriously gonna need to call in the avengers.
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Why then, does Thor-Girl attack him? What's the point?
^^^Do you or anyone else have pictures of the Thor/Gladiator fight from the pages of the Fantastic Four? I would love to see some scanned scenes of the fight!
BTW - I do believe that That is ultimately more powerful than Gladiator (and Gladiator concedes that Thor is too strong for him) and should win a majority of fights between the two. I also believe that on any given day, a fight between them could go either way depending on strategy/wits/cunning.
ps: Gladiator ATTACKED Eric Masterson in order to avoid having to fight Thor. As powerful as Gladiator is, he seemed to realize that taking Thor unawares'(sp?) would probably yield the desired result (slaying Thor before the reigning).
Originally posted by Son of Odin
^^^Do you or anyone else have pictures of the Thor/Gladiator fight from the pages of the Fantastic Four? I would love to see some scanned scenes of the fight!
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ThorandGlads.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ThorandGlads2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ThorandGlads3.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ThorandGlads4.jpg
This was a even fight between the two before Thing stopped them.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You would. I see it as dead even at most. Superman is still Thors physical superior in every way.Thor's hammer is his source of power and we have already seen that Superman can both take a hit when unaware (when he's weakest to a 'magical' attack) and when aware has CAUGHT the hammer in mid swing.
Thors best bet is a godblast, while Supes can use Torquasm Vo.
Neither is immune to the others trump card.No speed 5/5
Full speed 7-8/10 for Supes.
Thats totally your opinion, some could say that Thor is Supes physical superior. Imo, There equals in this category.
In Marvel that crossover isn't even cannon, and you and I both know that Supes shouldn't just be able to stand and take hits form a hammer that has been shown to shake planets with single blows.
No actually Thor's best bet isn't the godblast, and if he did resort to this attack supes would be dead. Mjolnir could simply just put Supes to sleep, kill him with anti matter, transmutes his body into nothing, send him to hel to hang with Hela, steal his soul, absorb all of Supes energy, absorb the sun, etc. There's so many ways Thor can beat Superman it's ridiculous.
Actually, Thor has been shown to be immune to telepathic assaults, so Im not sure if T-Vo would even work.
No speed Thor 8-9/10
with Speed Thor 5-6/10
Don't attack me, it's just my opinion 😬
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thats totally your opinion, some could say that Thor is Supes physical superior. Imo, There equals in this category.In Marvel that crossover isn't even cannon, and you and I both know that Supes shouldn't just be able to stand and take hits form a hammer that has been shown to shake planets with single blows.
No actually Thor's best bet isn't the godblast, and if he did resort to this attack supes would be dead. Mjolnir could simply just put Supes to sleep, kill him with anti matter, transmutes his body into nothing, send him to hel to hang with Hela, steal his soul, absorb all of Supes energy, absorb the sun, etc. There's so many ways Thor can beat Superman it's ridiculous.
Actually, Thor has been shown to be immune to telepathic assaults, so Im not sure if T-Vo would even work.
No speed Thor 8-9/10
with Speed Thor 5-6/10Don't attack me, it's just my opinion 😬
Where did I attack you? Anti matter has powered Superman. Superman has resisted magical transmuation on a far far higher level than Thor...unless you think Thor can turn WW back into clay... Supes absorbed a god killing concentrated anti sun, no hammer needed.., taken a direct blast from the astro force...ect.
X-over or not, that WAS canon. We can't disregard simply because we don't like. Nobody has had defense to Torquasm Vo and that includes Thor. In all fairness, Thor rarely uses the exotic powers as Superman rarely uses T-vo.
Toning down Supes to not having Superspeed does remove some of his niftier tricks, but my opinion is still...
5/5 each way normal speed as happened ON PANEL.
Full Speed 7-8/10 Supes (or even Flash) over Thor.
Now correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Thor have to summon his more exotic powers? I know he had to against Juggy and in the scans I posted above he was summining lightning against Glads before the fight was stopped. I guess my point is I don't think Supes is gonna stand there while Thor summons a obscure attack.