Thor (vs) Superman

Started by Silent Master17 pages

It's not canon unless it's in an in-continuity comic.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What comic was the crossover mentioned in?

It's canon for DC.
That we know.

But the measuring stick that is always used, ie comic continuity mentioning it, is disregarded in this instance.

Handbook evidence is whats reinforcing the legitness of the story.

Though handbooks are never the authority, but used only when backing up whats shown in comics.

Its always been kinda hard to understand the contenuity of that crossover since Thor in marvel at the time was not even classic Thor.

Originally posted by ManOf2morrow
I've been having this argument with my Thor-phile best friend for years. If Cap is worthy to pick up the hammer I kinda think Superman is too.

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Superman Wields Mjolnir to win a 1,000 year war in Asgard along with WW.

This while keeping his oath to his wife, and his oath not to kill.

As we all know, these are all magical beings.... including the DC Thor who can apparently grant wishes...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
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Superman Wields Mjolnir to win a 1,000 year war in Asgard along with WW.

This while keeping his oath to his wife, and his oath not to kill.

As we all know, these are all magical beings.... including the DC Thor who can apparently grant wishes...

Is there any proof that DC Thor is on the same lv as Marvel Classic Thor?

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's not canon unless it's in an in-continuity comic.

Originally posted by UniOmni
You denied that Superman is a pacifist.
Surfer is the definition of pacifist, but he's been in battles galore.
He doesn't like to fight, and neither does Superman.

Cap has the warriors spirit. Superman is a warrior by circumstance.
No comparison.

Wiki: Pacifism is the opposition to war or violence as a means of settling disputes. Pacifism covers a spectrum of views ranging from the belief that international disputes can and should be peacefully resolved, to absolute opposition to the use of violence, or even force, under any circumstances.

So, considering nearly every issue of Superman is a brawl betwixt The Man of Tommorrow and the villain of the week, he is not a pacifist. Superman is no more a warrior by circumstance than Captain America is. Without the Super Soldier serum he's just a sickly little weakling... hmm, that sounds like a "circumstance" whereby you would choose to become a warrior. Not that it matters anyway: Cap worthy = Superman worthy.

New proposal for a fight: Superman vs. Thor...with a twist! The twist is that Superman has to wear Kryptonite underwear and Thor has the Odinpower. >>Thor fanboys everywhere are giddy at the thought of such an honorable win rolleyes1 <<

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Is there any proof that DC Thor is on the same lv as Marvel Classic Thor?

So Skyfather level deities (Zeus, Odin, etc) are simply more powerful in the Marvel Universe than in the DC universe and by extension their progeny is as well? Yeah, there's no Marvel bias in this thread. 😆

Originally posted by ManOf2morrow
So Skyfather level deities (Zeus, Odin, etc) are simply more powerful in the Marvel Universe than in the DC universe and by extension their progeny is as well? Yeah, there's no Marvel bias in this thread. 😆

No, but there power is depicted and given ranks based on feats. So Marvel Thor has years of uber feats, and the Dc Thor doesn't have many if any at all, it's fair to ask what puts them on the same lv. 😐

IOW, you have no proof that DC Thor is on the same level of Marvel Thor, so you're just going to fall back on the argument 'they have the same name therefore they must be equal'.

BTW, for those using the crossover as proof, according to it Superman = not worthy.

Originally posted by ManOf2morrow
So Skyfather level deities (Zeus, Odin, etc) are simply more powerful in the Marvel Universe than in the DC universe and by extension their progeny is as well? Yeah, there's no Marvel bias in this thread. 😆

Thor is the product of a high skyfather and elder god.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you have no proof that DC Thor is on the same level of Marvel Thor, so you're just going to fall back on the argument 'they have the same name therefore they must be equal'.

BTW, for those using the crossover as proof, according to it Superman = not worthy.

At least some of us have sense.

So DC Thor allows Superman to wield mjolnir for a thousand years - during a time of war - and he never kills ANYONE? 🙄

How many substitutes for bulls**t can I find in my thesaurus...

Originally posted by roughrider
So DC Thor allows Superman to wield mjolnir for a thousand years - during a time of war - and he never kills ANYONE? 🙄

How many substitutes for bulls**t can I find in my thesaurus...

I was just reading the Jla Avengers crossover again. and in the end, superman couldent lift the mijior because of Odin's enchantment.
(oh and for a side note, i never realized it, or noticed it, but toward the end of the fight before thor go's down, and passes the mijior to superman, thor was fighting Doomsday. Thought it was pretty cool.)

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you have no proof that DC Thor is on the same level of Marvel Thor, so you're just going to fall back on the argument 'they have the same name therefore they must be equal'.

BTW, for those using the crossover as proof, according to it Superman = not worthy.

PIS

Just like Thor losing to Superman, right?

Originally posted by roughrider
So DC Thor allows Superman to wield mjolnir for a thousand years - during a time of war - and he never kills ANYONE? 🙄

How many substitutes for bulls**t can I find in my thesaurus...

So it's not possible for the Man of Steel to fight and not kill anyone? He must kill? A superhero with as much experience as he has is entirely capable of fighting, pulling his punches/hammer blows and incapacitating his opponents without killing them. No need to be a mindless berserker killing machine is there?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just like Thor losing to Superman, right?

yes lol.
DC thor is not the same as Marvel's.
I thnk Avalon said that DC thor is able to grant wishes..MArvel's don't.
Only Odin can decide whether or not one's self is worthy of weilding the mijior.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you have no proof that DC Thor is on the same level of Marvel Thor, so you're just going to fall back on the argument 'they have the same name therefore they must be equal'.

BTW, for those using the crossover as proof, according to it Superman = not worthy.

1. For obvious reasons DC hasn't explored the Norse pantheon a great deal but I would assume that since even Marvel's version of Thor is at least loosely based on the Mythical Norse Deity that they would be on par with one another.

2. No more than you have proof that Marvel's Thor is more powerful than DC's Thor. Whine about power levels all you want, this is ALL conjecture and speculation.

Originally posted by ManOf2morrow
1. For obvious reasons DC hasn't explored the Norse pantheon a great deal but I would assume that since even Marvel's version of Thor is at least loosely based on the Mythical Norse Deity that they would be on par with one another.

2. No more than you have proof that Marvel's Thor is more powerful than DC's Thor. Whine about power levels all you want, this is ALL conjecture and speculation.


DC's thor has any feats that can even rival's Marvels version?
If marvel's and DC's version are the same explain wat happned in the cross over, when superman couldent lift the mijior.