Thor (vs) Superman

Started by Silent Master17 pages

Except one side(Marvel Thos) has decades worth of feats that can be posted to show his power level.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just like Thor losing to Superman, right?

No dude. Starting a thread with Superman vs. Thor with a twist: Superman can't use Superspeed is PIS and a violation of the forum rules: It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

If you have to take one of Supes tools out of his toolbox in order for Thor to win, well that's just sad and pathetic.

There is no rule that fights cannot have stipulations

Edit:BTW what did that have to do with the question you quoted?

Originally posted by ManOf2morrow
So it's not possible for the Man of Steel to fight and not kill anyone? He must kill? A superhero with as much experience as he has is entirely capable of fighting, pulling his punches/hammer blows and incapacitating his opponents without killing them. No need to be a mindless berserker killing machine is there?

I saw the scans up above. Looked like a lot of bodies lying around. Diana is a warrior born, who believes killing in combat is honourable. You think she was pulling her punches all that time, right beside Superman? Did Superman tell her she can't kill, just like him?
Bullcrap.

Oh, and Diana has picked up mjolnir all on her own. Didn't need it to be tossed to her like how Superman caught it (then couldn't lift it later.)

Thor 6/10

Similar power level, but Thor possesses overall better fighting ability (no secret).

Supes has the advantages with Speed - however Thor's combination of Skill, Magic (which I hate but Supes IS weak to it), and as a last resort Warrior Madness and Godblast would win it for him.

Originally posted by roughrider
I saw the scans up above. Looked like a lot of bodies lying around. Diana is a warrior born, who believes killing in combat is honourable. You think she was pulling her punches all that time, right beside Superman? Did Superman tell her she can't kill, just like him?
Bullcrap.

Oh, and Diana has picked up mjolnir all on her own. Didn't need it to be tossed to her like how Superman caught it (then couldn't lift it later.)

Yep, she lifted it twice, that's one of the few things in that crossover that I agreed with.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yep, she lifted it twice, that's one of the few things in that crossover that I agreed with.

I agree with Diana being able to lift the hammer - lesser beings have to be honest.

I've always thought of Martian Manhunter as having a good chance of lifting the hammer as well - am I nuts for thinking that?

Originally posted by ManOf2morrow
No dude. Starting a thread with Superman vs. Thor with a twist: Superman can't use Superspeed is PIS and a violation of the forum rules: It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
[B]It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up
for those who have variable power levels.

If you have to take one of Supes tools out of his toolbox in order for Thor to win, well that's just sad and pathetic. [/B]

I just didn't restrict Superman, I stated that both characters can't move at super speeds. Meaning that Thor can't move at the warp speeds Marvel has him listed as.

Originally posted by ManOf2morrow
No dude. Starting a thread with Superman vs. Thor with a twist: Superman can't use Superspeed is PIS and a violation of the forum rules: It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
[B]It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up
for those who have variable power levels.

If you have to take one of Supes tools out of his toolbox in order for Thor to win, well that's just sad and pathetic. [/B]


What are you talking about? There are thread's where the people in them are limited or powered up all the time. It helps make it an actual debate as opposed to people just saying things like "Speed blitz 4 the Win!".

Both have superspeed but Thor is just straight up more powerful than Superman plain and simple. Superman's other abilities(Heat vision and freeze breath) are nothing to Thor.

superman travels faster in fight speed compared to thor, it has been shown many times... thor goes down hard before he can truly block a superspeed punch or 8 to the head

Originally posted by MattDay
superman travels faster in fight speed compared to thor, it has been shown many times... thor goes down hard before he can truly block a superspeed punch or 8 to the head

This thread stated no Superspeed

doh! lol thanks for reminding me! well i'd say it goes from a 7/10 for supes to a 6/10 for supes due to lack of using his speed

I don't care if there is superspeed. Thor can set up an impenetrable defense with the whirling of his hammer. But he doesn't spend a whole fight like that - just like Superman doesn't just use superspeed to end every fight off the bat.

If there's superspeed, Superman always has the advantage of knocking the hammer out of Thor's hands, like Gladiator did.

heck gladiator is often referred to as the marvel superman, what he has done, superman can definitely do!

Really, Gladiator has destroyed a planet with 3 punches, can I get a scan of Superman doing the same?

no, but superman, if you read his respect thread, has accomplished feats higher than that, who needs to destroy a planet when you out muscle war world, something much harder to do, or turning the wheels of magheddon, or beating blaze in her own realm, jeese have faith dude, he can do whatever gladiator will throw out

Originally posted by Accel
If there's superspeed, Superman always has the advantage of knocking the hammer out of Thor's hands, like Gladiator did.

thor learns from his mistakes. the second fight was totally diffrent.

He had a temp powerup for the Warworld feat

Later with help from both WW and MM, he was failing to hold Earth in orbit and they had to be saved by Manitou(sp) and GL.