Originally posted by ValidusAva is a fanboy (not a huge one) but still a fanboy
Very true of course but I generally find it easier to convince people of Marvel character than feats than DC. It only took a scan of half a page to convince everyone Silver Surfer could time travel yet Juntai and I had to ramble for 4 pages to show everyone Flash could do the same. Avalon has more Superman scans than I care to count yet he's pretty much brushed aside as a fanboy. I could think of more examples but quite frankly, I'm too lazy.
He probably owns every Superman comic there is. He knows exactly what he is capable of unlike some who think he is fast, strong and can shoot LAZ0RZ beams from his eyes. Superman is a classic example of versatility and his speed and strength trump most of Marvel earth heroes, fact. 😮💨
There is both Marvel and DC bias in the vs forum, why cry about it? Just a forum fs.
Re: The Versus Forums are very Marvel Biased
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's like no matter what the evidence on panel says, or a characters powers and rep, for some reason, people who like marvel, tend to argue you down. And They will use an argument like Thor is more versatile than Superman to explain why Thor wins. And Thor has magic for the win. And then will say silver surfer or quasar can beat a green lanter, Who is the most versatile of every super hero combined.(what happened to versatility?) Or they will say something like Wonder Woman can't beat Herculese, even tho she clearly has the stronger magic and versatility. What is up with that? I"m starting to think the versus forum is not really for serious debate so much as people liking to just out right pick thier favorite characters instead of the ones that should win. or at the very least, they read so much of one company, that they think that only that complany should win. It's so bad that even when I think a marvel character should win, i have to argue against it just to even the playing field.
This whole comic forum is marvel biased.
On any given day there are usually 20 marvel threads and 6 or 7 DC ones on the very first page
well i think it has to be a little biased for marvel cuz, true heads know that its general knowledge that the avergae DC charcter(metahuman) is more powerful than the average Marvel ones..and the uber DC charcters are out of this freaking world, while the marvel ones, while having very powerful showings on panel pale in comparison to DC...so when a person starts a marvel vs Dc type thread, 8/10 they were rooting for the marvel charcater to begin so thier debate is gonna be structured around that person winning, and all the illogical fanboysim thereof😄
Re: Re: The Versus Forums are very Marvel Biased
Originally posted by Soleran
Translation:I cannot win a single debate no matter how I stack the odds, it's true I suck as a comic forum debater.
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I don't know my opponents powers well enough to win so I stack the odds in my favor ( I think) but I still cannot get a win, cuz I'm just not good at facing up to marvel folks.
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I'm such a huge fanboy that you all suck and cannot see past the greatness that is DC, LOVE the Lantern (cuz I do,) why can't I ever win a debate I should buy a cat I think.( I ad libbed the last part there)
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Why doesn't everone think DC is the bestest and think like me, huh why?
Seriously do it, do it bring back the DC equality and balance the DC/Marvel'ites!
A bit harsh i think ? 🙂
Re: The Versus Forums are very Marvel Biased
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirli agree with this to an extent....... for instance it is rediculous when people argue that someone like dormammu, or LT can beat lucifer morningstar...... even though evidence can be provided showing that spectre is on the same level as LT, and yet spectre would not dare to challenge lucifer in one of the issues........ and also yahweh himself has even said that lucifer is 2nd in power to only him, the marvel fanatics just wont believe this if they think their favorite character might loose
It's like no matter what the evidence on panel says, or a characters powers and rep, for some reason, people who like marvel, tend to argue you down. And They will use an argument like Thor is more versatile than Superman to explain why Thor wins. And Thor has magic for the win. And then will say silver surfer or quasar can beat a green lanter, Who is the most versatile of every super hero combined.(what happened to versatility?) Or they will say something like Wonder Woman can't beat Herculese, even tho she clearly has the stronger magic and versatility. What is up with that? I"m starting to think the versus forum is not really for serious debate so much as people liking to just out right pick thier favorite characters instead of the ones that should win. or at the very least, they read so much of one company, that they think that only that complany should win. It's so bad that even when I think a marvel character should win, i have to argue against it just to even the playing field.
Originally posted by badabing
Here are links to battles which have DC vs Marvel. They all have polls so everybody can decide.Batman vs Spider-Man
http://marvelite.prohosting.com/surfer/profiles/pip.html
Superman vs Hulk
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t371986.html
Superman vs Silver Surfer
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29475
Superman vs Thor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t344165.html
Black Panther vs Batman
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t303660.html
Superman vs Magneto
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t337088.html
Batman vs Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t21541.html
Black Adam vs Thor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t357234.html
Superman vs Juggernaut
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=411064
Superman vs nate Grey
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=415862
Hercules vs Wonderwoman
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=354220
Batman vs Namor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t361984.html
Quicksilver vs Flash
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t337984.html
Hulk & Juggernaut vs Superman & Wonderwoman
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=407929
I don't even use the polls .... Who cares who wins and looses, i just hate Ignorant blase posts that make exaggerated claims. And although both camps make them, there are more coming from Marv elites. I also tend to feel a general negativity towards D.C. and a sense desperation for Marvel to succeed. In the end it really doesn't matter, hence my retreat from the vrs forum. In the end i read comics for the writing, not the fighting. Although the standard of posting from members who are known to struck up for D.C. characters is generally superior.
Leon, Draco, Ion, Avol , X maks , etc come to mind.
Originally posted by manjaro
well i think it has to be a little biased for marvel cuz, true heads know that its general knowledge that the avergae DC charcter(metahuman) is more powerful than the average Marvel ones..and the uber DC charcters are out of this freaking world, while the marvel ones, while having very powerful showings on panel pale in comparison to DC...so when a person starts a marvel vs Dc type thread, 8/10 they were rooting for the marvel charcater to begin so thier debate is gonna be structured around that person winning, and all the illogical fanboysim thereof😄
Everyone loves an underdog, but why do people have to take it so seriously ? In the ned it really doesn't matter. 🙁
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Versus Forums are very Marvel Biased
Originally posted by Soleran
Maybe except some of the examples I witnessed first hand and some i was a part of so I saw what the individual was "reaching" for here.
Fair enough ..... A bit of a frustrated sympathy vote I presume ? Im good at those, especially when there is Best Debator thread.
Re: The Versus Forums are very Marvel Biased
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's like no matter what the evidence on panel says, or a characters powers and rep, for some reason, people who like marvel, tend to argue you down. And They will use an argument like Thor is more versatile than Superman to explain why Thor wins. And Thor has magic for the win. And then will say silver surfer or quasar can beat a green lanter, Who is the most versatile of every super hero combined.(what happened to versatility?) Or they will say something like Wonder Woman can't beat Herculese, even tho she clearly has the stronger magic and versatility. What is up with that? I"m starting to think the versus forum is not really for serious debate so much as people liking to just out right pick thier favorite characters instead of the ones that should win. or at the very least, they read so much of one company, that they think that only that complany should win. It's so bad that even when I think a marvel character should win, i have to argue against it just to even the playing field.
It happens because most of the people posting there have either seen the Marvel Comics Movies and think popularity outweights the character. The biggest issue is the realm of posibility. I, myself was involved in many Batman vs. Captain America matches. I can provide certain observations that Batman can defeat Capt. And it also works vice versa. I read the comic and have fair amount of knowledge of the character.
But here...you won't believe how Hype the characters are transform. Most of the time is always the physical that always determine the winner. That's simply BS....many of us know Batman is a detective and scientist...he's much more intelligent than Capt can ever be. Capt is a soldier...but there in the VS. forums somehow someway he became a super genious! Woah! That's just amazing.
Any legit fan will tell you that Batman cannot lift a train or fly away. Those are not his properties. When someone does claim that he can do it is an absolute moron. Capt MIGHT possibly be capable of doing those feats....but if you expect ANYONE will belive that Capt can also solve a murder crime...I don't think so.
With that aside there is the bizarre case of Hatred directed at certain character. I don't know why this happens. I'll bet you anything that people who usually pick the loser is not because of pure reason....but there is a hatred factor involved. I've seen it...and it continues to happen. What's even worse is that they use certain arguments to prove you wrong.
All I can say is keep reading. You'll start to see somethings that out of place. Don't try to fix them. You can't change the mind of a fanboy. It's just a waste of time. Just keep posting your thoughts and have fun.
Originally posted by Big Sexy
I agree, as both gets their share of fanboysFlash- can drop the multiverse on you
SS- can turn you into a cucumber
Superman- Hes Superman
Batman- Batgod of prep
MM- mindrape invincible and intangible
Doom- Prep God
Aquaman- magic hand automatic loss
Quasar- absorbtion God
Juggs unstoppable
Galactus- what percents he atIt works both ways dude and currently I think marvel is outselling DC so any new members are going to come on and pick what they know, thats a given. But seriously why cry
Wait, did you mean... no... i used that as an example of how dc can have fanboys as much as marvel... i didnt mean at all that it was a dc specific trait...
Re: The Versus Forums are very Marvel Biased
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's like no matter what the evidence on panel says, or a characters powers and rep, for some reason, people who like marvel, tend to argue you down. And They will use an argument like Thor is more versatile than Superman to explain why Thor wins. And Thor has magic for the win. And then will say silver surfer or quasar can beat a green lanter, Who is the most versatile of every super hero combined.(what happened to versatility?) Or they will say something like Wonder Woman can't beat Herculese, even tho she clearly has the stronger magic and versatility. What is up with that? I"m starting to think the versus forum is not really for serious debate so much as people liking to just out right pick thier favorite characters instead of the ones that should win. or at the very least, they read so much of one company, that they think that only that complany should win. It's so bad that even when I think a marvel character should win, i have to argue against it just to even the playing field.
You just figured this out... now? 😂