Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ok Sama but why is it not possible that Plagueis created Sidious and told him about the technique. When he decided not to teach it to Sidious, Sidious killed him.
What I'm saying is that we don't even know if Sidious is being truthful or not. He has contradicted three statements by his words to Anakin later.
Firstly, it's entirely possible he just said all of that stuff in an elaborate ruse to trick Anakin, because Padme was his weak spot. Secondly, if he didn't teach it to Sidious - why does Sidious say he did on two occasions? That would lead one to believe Palpatine might just have made that stuff up. Thirdly, no one is denying that it's not possible that he did create Sidious. But, uh, why? I address a lot of this below.
It makes sense and if you think outside the box in terms of the star wars galaxy and all the prophecies, I really think this is as close as it gets.
Well, if you do think about it outside of Star Wars terms, and such - I, personally, wouldn't believe in stuff about a preordained destiny, which basically is what that'd have to be. So, Sidious was created by Plagueis for whatever reason, and the Force then creates Anakin because of that? Your original theory needs Sidious to be the Sith'ari, which - apparently - he cannot be. The only viable explanation is that Sidious was going to become too damn powerful, and the Force had to bring balance itself by creating Anakin to save itself in the future.
It's basically what you're saying, minus the Sith'ari crap. But then it'd beg question as to why Plagueis would create Sidious. One answer could be so as the Sith could succeed. Sidious would annihilate the Jedi with his overpowered and manipulated Force potential/power or whatever, and together they would rule the galaxy. Meaning that Plagueis would create Sidious for personal gain basically.
However, why the hell would he want someone else - that would become stronger than himself - to rule alongside side him? I highly doubt Plagueis really wanted to be killed later on; as it doesn't make sense to create some just so they could kill you, as that's the way of the Sith. Strongest rules.
Check out this quote from RODV:
"How many years would he have had to search for an apprentice even half as powerful in the Force, let alone one created by the Force itself to restore balance, by allowing the dark side to percolate fully to the surface after a millennium of being stifled?
None would be found."
-- Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, page 133.
Now, that's quote referring to Sidious' thoughts (emphasis he). So, obviously, we have Sidious thinking he needs to find a new apprentice, and he says specifically "let alone one created by the Force". This - to me at least - seems to indicate that Sidious himself, indeed, was not created through the Force. Okay, and the next line says in RODV does say this:
"Sidious would have had to discover a way to compel midichlorians to do his bidding, and bring into being one as powerful as Anakin."
I'm fairly certain Sidious was not created by the Force, or manipulation of such - because if he were, he should've been close to Anakin in potential. That's only taking the premise that Anakin was created by Plagueis through the Force, thus having such a powerful potential. And turning it around, and saying that Sidious was created through the Force by Plagueis, so he should've been near Anakin in potential. If post-suit Vader is 80% of Sidious's power (Lucas), and here's just a guess - 50% of his Force potential was lost at Mustafar, then Sidious isn't even close to Anakin's true potential.
The source for that "guesstimate" - I don't really have it, lol. I'm going by the words of the unreliable ESB Vader, and the fact Anakin did lose half his friggin' body. If I can find the source for that 50% bit - I'll let you know, but let's just assume that. Anyways, there's also the fact that there has been absolutely no mention of it. That doesn't mean it cannot be, but it's odd that such a detail wouldn't even be so much as implied, you know what I mean? As it was with Anakin.
I do believe George Lucas has left the fans in the dark, and did state that he did do that on purpose. Honestly, nothing is more valid than another theory. There are a few missing holes in the Plagueis creating Anakin, as well. But really, there's nothing we can actually state to be completely true, or just "most likely" because we just don't know. A lot of stuff is just friggin' possibility. The Plagueis novel, which is going to be released in 2008 I think (is that right?) will probably shed light on the subject. I do highly doubt that Sidious was created through the Force however. It just doesn't seem like it'd happen.