The Mighty Avengers. Now THIS is an Avengers team...

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I stopped collecting minis after the immense failures that where Drax the Destroyer and Sentry, as well as various Infinite Crisis ones. I blew alot of money last year on some pretty average comics.

Ares mini>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Drax and the sentry Mini.

I was never that big a fan of the Marvel gods before reading the mini but after hearing so many people recommending it to me I decided to check it out. I'm glad I did.

and it's worth reading just to see Herc and Ares version of the fastball special. 🙂

Originally posted by Black Adam
Ares mini>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Drax and the sentry Mini.

I was never that big a fan of the Marvel gods before reading the mini but after hearing so many people recommending it to me I decided to check it out. I'm glad I did.

and it's worth reading just to see Herc and Ares version of the fastball special. 🙂

The 1st couple issues of Ares were f***in amazing! 😱

It kind of died down a little after that, but it was still good 😬

in an interview with a large number of the minds behind civil war, bendis started tossing around some strange ideas about what might happen post-CW. including suggesting that stark and cap might be changing roles, as each of them personifies a certain aspect of america. "who's to say it's even tony wearing the armor, or steve wearing the suit?" i believe that was the quote.

so don't get your minds to racing too hard, because you could all be looking in the wrong directions.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Ok... what the are you talking about ? When have you seen any comics where the fights have been as easy and mundane as superheroes flicking their fingers. IMO you have a very naive misconception about D.C. super teams. If you read any of the last volumes of JLA or JSA (Both teams with characters of a variety of powers and powerlevels) you'd be suprised at the quality of the written stories.

My point is that u dont have to have class 100 characters to have a good storyline. JLA has too many powerhouses, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Superman, Martian Manhunter, characters that hardly have any weakneses. The most recent incarnation of the JLA is the more diversified since it has a couple of heroes that aint level 100. The DC teams i like the most are Birds of Prey and Teen Titans, teams that dont necesarily are the most powerful. DC overpower its characters, Marvel characters are more believable.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Marvel characters are more believable.

That is debatable...

And just because a hero can lift 100 tons or more doesnt mean his book will automatically suck...

I wanna see Ares vs. Thor...

God Of Thunder vs. God Of War

Thor would overpower him.... but he'd probably take a couple of injuries along the way

Originally posted by Rewmac
I wanna see Ares vs. Thor...

God Of Thunder vs. God Of War

My money is on Ares.

Would be a great battle...

If they fight h2h, Ares will murder Thor 😄

Originally posted by Scoobless
Thor would overpower him.... but he'd probably take a couple of injuries along the way

Originally posted by Grimm22
If they fight h2h, Ares will murder Thor 😄

I agree. Taken Thor is more popular but that aside Ares is the god of war. He'll win and i believe he'll use any means necessary.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I agree. Taken Thor is more popular but that aside Ares is the god of war. He'll win and i believe he'll use any means necessary.

You mean like this?

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Though I think he stole that fire "move" from Orion ... 😛

Originally posted by Scoobless
You mean like this?

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Though I think he stole that fire "move" from Orion ... 😛

thanks for posting the fastball special. 🙂

Originally posted by Scoobless
You mean like this?

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Though I think he stole that fire "move" from Orion ... 😛

😄 Exactly like that.

the guns just seem out of place for a god...

He ditched them for other weapons as soon as the bullets ran out

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
My point is that u dont have to have class 100 characters to have a good storyline. JLA has too many powerhouses, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Superman, Martian Manhunter, characters that hardly have any weakneses.

But you'll very rarely find them sorting out problems with their fists, so i think you'll find, youre still 'chasing shadows' with youre point. Infact I think youre arguement is far more appropriate when applied to the LAST volume of the Avengers. If u read most of the stories created by Brusiek they often followed certain a formula involing 'miraculous' escapes, generally followed by a serries of unorginal punch ups. Infact power creativity has never really been associated with the Avengers. On the other hand, Morrisson and Waid showed they where masters of it, during their respective JLA runs.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
The most recent incarnation of the JLA is the more diversified since it has a couple of heroes that aint level 100. The DC teams i like the most are Birds of Prey and Teen Titans, teams that dont necesarily are the most powerful.

The JLA IMO, has always been the last resort team that deals with the Uber problems that the other teams can't handle. Infact i think Metzler put it brillaintly, when he considred why a character; who could move planets and can travel at near light velocities would need team mates ? He concluded that the JLA is all bout threats and problems that the Gods cannot 'tackle'. Which is why you need the uber characters on the team and wide diversity in 'fire power'. For example, Aquaman is not on the team becasue of his strength and durability, but because of his other abilities and resources. The same applies to the M.M and G.L.

I dont have problem with the general 'weakness' of this Avengers team, infact i think its considerably stronger than the last one. But it does lack adaptability espcially in the useage of powers. I think Bendis has dug himself a hole, as i think many of the fights/battles are going to descend into nothing more than Baroom brawls.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
DC overpower its characters, Marvel characters are more believable.

Rubbish .... Powers provided by radioactive Spiders, Nuclear Blasts and Cosmic rays are not more believable.

I hate when people pull out this, 'I read Marvel because D.C.overpower their heroes and marvel is more beilevable' card. Its Ironic they are the ones who usaully state that characters like Thor, Hulk, Wonderman, Hercules Silver surfer e.t.c. could easilly beat D.C. higher teir characters, in the vrs forum.

Originally posted by Scoobless
You mean like this?

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Though I think he stole that fire "move" from Orion ... 😛

That is quite cool .... Although i think he could do with a KANG/Forge power. I.e. Kang can pull any appropriate weapon/shielding from any point in time, and Forge's mutant powers is to create any weapon he can think of. It could be some sort of quantum probability power, where he literally alters probability (Maybe with his godlike magic) to provide himself with the weapon he needs. What does everyone think ?

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
But you'll very rarely find them sorting out problems with their fists, so i think you'll find, youre still 'chasing shadows' with youre point. Infact I think youre arguement is far more appropriate when applied to the LAST volume of the Avengers. If u read most of the stories created by Brusiek they often followed certain a formula involing 'miraculous' escapes, generally followed by a serries of unorginal punch ups. Infact power creativity has never really been associated with the Avengers. On the other hand, Morrisson and Waid showed they where masters of it, during their respective JLA runs.

The JLA IMO, has always been the last resort team that deals with the Uber problems that the other teams can't handle. Infact i think Metzler put it brillaintly, when he considred why a character; who could move planets and can travel at near light velocities would need team mates ? He concluded that the JLA is all bout threats and problems that the Gods cannot 'tackle'. Which is why you need the uber characters on the team and wide diversity in 'fire power'. For example, Aquaman is not on the team becasue of his strength and durability, but because of his other abilities and resources. The same applies to the M.M and G.L.

I dont have problem with the general 'weakness' of this Avengers team, infact i think its considerably stronger than the last one. But it does lack adaptability espcially in the useage of powers. I think Bendis has dug himself a hole, as i think many of the fights/battles are going to descend into nothing more than Baroom brawls.

Rubbish .... Powers provided by radioactive Spiders, Nuclear Blasts and Cosmic rays are not more believable.

I hate when people pull out this, 'I read Marvel because D.C.overpower their heroes and marvel is more beilevable' card. Its Ironic they are the ones who usaully state that characters like Thor, Hulk, Wonderman, Hercules Silver surfer e.t.c. could easilly beat D.C. higher teir characters, in the vrs forum.