Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Torquasm Vo. A powerful kryptonian martial art/meditation technique that allows Supes a variety of options.Current Supes should actually be able to pull it off effectively on Blue since Blue has no experience of even knew that it existed.
I think that explains nicely, Supes over Blue supes for the majority via T-Vo.
Originally posted by darthgoober
But what about Blue's infinite potential, and the whole wrestling with the angel(who's higher than an abstract) and all that other stuff. 🙂
T-Vo as explained by more then just myself (Avalon though he worded it differently; the ability to gain your opponents powers and shut your opponents powers off), is simply, the power to become more powerful then your opponent well at the same time making your opponent powerless.
Originally posted by Jesse7
T-Vo as explained by more then just myself (Avalon though he worded it differently; the ability to gain your opponents powers and shut your opponents powers off), is simply, the power to become more powerful then your opponent well at the same time making your opponent powerless.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah but how is he going to become more powerful than infinite?
By surpassing infinite, going to say "well scientifically you can't go greater then infinite" then again Comics aren't very scientifically accurate are they? As Supes has shown with T-vo he can pass infinite.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm sory but infinite is infinite, the only way he could use T-Vo to surpass him is if his power wasn't infinite.
T-Vo's just like that it surpasses even infinite, you can turn a blind eye all you want to it, but its not going to change its power in comics that it does indeed surpass those stated as infinite (Domiru). I think I prefer a comics narration and statements over your opinion.
Originally posted by Jesse7
T-Vo's just like that it surpasses even infinite, you can turn a blind eye all you want to it, but its not going to change its power in comics that it does indeed surpass those stated as infinite (Domiru). I think I prefer a comics narration and statements over your opinion.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not trying to turn a blind eye to it, I'm just pointing out that if it IS able to surpass Blue, then his power isn't really infinite.
Supes blue as stated is infinite in potential, but T-vo is just the power to surpass infinite, simply put its the power to surpass alot really.
Things can be infinite but it does not mean that they cannot be beaten, as I have never said Supes blue cannot be beaten,
Originally posted by Jesse7
Supes blue as stated is infinite in potential, but T-vo is just the power to surpass infinite, simply put its the power to surpass alot really.Things can be infinite but it does not mean that they cannot be beaten, as I have never said Supes blue cannot be beaten,
Originally posted by darthgoober
What aren't you getting, infinite cannot be surpassed. Infinite is a constant, it cannot be added to, subtracted from, multiplied or divided, because the answer is always the same. So any showing where that which is truely infinite is supassed is BS because it's not possible.
As all physical words are, they are subjective, that is how you view infinite, I percieve infinite as a level, and that there are infinite levels of infinite, it is not that infinite is not surpassable it is just that physically it is unable to be gauged.
Simply put T-vo surpasses infinite on an infinite level, how much? I don't know.
Originally posted by Jesse7
As all physical words are, they are subjective, that is how you view infinite, I percieve infinite as a level, and that there are infinite levels of infinite, it is not that infinite is not surpassable it is just that physically it is unable to be gauged.Simply put T-vo surpasses infinite on an infinite level, how much? I don't know.
Originally posted by darthgoober
No, that is immeasurable. There is a BIG difference. You can perceive it however you want, but it won't change that one simple truth(which is pretty much universally accepted).
Universally accepted? Not at all, you shouldn't say things you do not know of, infinite is a subjective term just as all physical words are, you are trying to describe some thing with the word infinite that is beyond anything physical or physically recorded, no physical evidence of infinite so how do you of human and physical limitation pass judgement onto all universally claiming that Infinite is soley what you know it to be defined as?
Because scientist say so? Are they god? Do they know all? Is not quantum physics the study of science added with faith that science can prove things that have no evidence or not yet proved, that are yet not shown to exist? And is not the word faith subjective on many levels of reality as shown in this world today and throughout time?
The word infinite is as subjective as the words good and evil.
I'm sorry but the word infinite MEANS, NEVER ENDING! Something either ends, or it doesn't. Period. If you have a problem with how the word is defined by the people who created it, then you shouldn't use it so much in your arguments. The fact of the matter remains that if Blue Supes power can be surpassed than it CAN'T be infinite. It may be IMMEASURABLE(kinda like Surfers), but not infinite.
Originally posted by Jesse7
And why cannot Supes pull T-vo every match? Its within his power set, so is he purposely going to not use T-vo and lose? I think not, Supes with T-vo for the majority.
It is like saying Silver Surfer cannot use his speed every match thus he loses 9 out of the ten matches, when in fact he can use his speed every match just as Supes can use T-vo every match.