Superman(Blue) vs Superman

Started by Jesse75 pages
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm sorry but the word infinite MEANS, NEVER ENDING! Something either ends, or it doesn't. Period. If you have a problem with how the word is defined by the people who created it, then you shouldn't use it so much in your arguments. The fact of the matter remains that if Blue Supes power can be surpassed than it CAN'T be infinite. It may be IMMEASURABLE(kinda like Surfers), but not infinite.

Again you use the word infinite as though its meaning is law, do you know in other countries Infinite does not carry the same meaning as the one you just provided as an example, so your argument is not universally accepted. You view infinite as such, not all others do not, not make the mistake to assume.

The instances where Superman uses T-VO are slim at best. That is why I don't believe he will pull it off in every single match.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
The instances where Superman uses T-VO are slim at best. That is why I don't believe he will pull it off in every single match.

The instances where Silver Surfer speed blitzes in combat are none, yet he is aplicable to use it every match, same goes for Supes as almost for all characters on this forum, an example would be black bolt who rarely uses his scream but can use it every match on these forums.

Why are you bringing the surfer up? I don't care about him nor his speed blitzing. Fine Superman wins by TVOing the crap out of Superman Blue and in the process makes it a lame fight because the original S shield must prevail.

YAY.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Again you use the word infinite as though its meaning is law, do you know in other countries Infinite does not carry the same meaning as the one you just provided as an example, so your argument is not universally accepted. You view infinite as such, not all others do not, not make the mistake to assume.

I'm pretty sure that the comic where that was stated was written in America, and I'm sure that the writer was thinking of the American definition. But if your saying that thats NOT the meaning that was implied, then you really shouldn't use the word that way against Surfer, I'm sorry but you can't have it both ways.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Why are you bringing the surfer up? I don't care about him nor his speed blitzing. Fine Superman wins by TVOing the crap out of Superman Blue and in the process makes it a lame fight because the original S shield must prevail.

YAY.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm pretty sure that the comic where that was stated was written in America, and I'm sure that the writer was thinking of the American definition. But if your saying that thats NOT the meaning that was implied, then you really shouldn't use the word that way against Surfer, I'm sorry but you can't have it both ways.

Again were debating over the meaning of infinite, yet your trying to dimiss Supes blue well at the same time promoting SS, is so obvious.

Actually I don't think Blue supes has ever lost a battle, well SS has lost many.

P.S. It was written in America so? Is America the law of the world? Is being made in America make it superior to anywhere else? It was written in America, are we to assume the writters think and percieve exactly as you do? I think not, comics are for interprertation and percieving, not for one lined statements to be taken as law from one persons interpretation.

P.S.S. you said it was made in America, so does that mean every single person in american thinks the same and percieves and interepts every word including infinite as the same?

Originally posted by Jesse7
Again were debating over the meaning of infinite, yet your trying to dimiss Supes blue well at the same time promoting SS, is so obvious.

Actually I don't think Blue supes has ever lost a battle, well SS has lost many.

P.S. It was written in America so? Is America the law of the world? Is being made in America make it superior to anywhere else? It was written in America, are we to assume the writters think and percieve exactly as you do? I think not, comics are for interprertation and percieving, not for one lined statements to be taken as law from one persons interpretation.

P.S.S. you said it was made in America, so does that mean every single person in american thinks the same and percieves and interepts every word including infinite as the same?


No, I'm trying to understand what YOU mean by infinite, because up until now you have acted like you(and the writers), meant the standerd definition. If thats not the case then....

Originally posted by darthgoober
No, I'm trying to understand what YOU mean by infinite, because up until now you have acted like you(and the writers), meant the standerd definition. If thats not the case then....

When have I ever stated that Superman Blue cannot be surpassed or defeated? When have I acted as though infinite was to be taken as unsurpassable, cannot be defeated?

Originally posted by Jesse7
When have I ever stated that Superman Blue cannot be surpassed or defeated? When have I acted as though infinite was to be taken as unsurpassable, cannot be defeated?

I never said that you DID say he couldn't be surpassed or defeated. You simply went on with the word infinite. But now that I know you didn't actually mean that.....

Since when is t-vo infinite.... Where are you getting this information.. Never stated in comics or in any faqs... Torquasm vo is a meditation/martial art technigue created by Kryptonians kinda like Judo uses your opponent strength/power.. He defeated Dominus using Dominus abilities specificly time and realty manipulation (which really does not make any since, since Dominus exp. in those skills surpasses Supes). So what he would be doing is just tapping into Blue Supes energies which is infinite potential and throwing it back and at desame time Blue Supes would be absorbing those energies and Supes solar energies. There is really nothing Superman can do against this guy..

Originally posted by Rols
Since when is t-vo infinite.... Where are you getting this information.. Never stated in comics or in any faqs... Torquasm vo is a meditation/martial art technigue created by Kryptonians kinda like Judo uses your opponent strength/power.. He defeated Dominus using Dominus abilities specificly time and realty manipulation (which really does not make any since, since Dominus exp. in those skills surpasses Supes). So what he would be doing is just tapping into Blue Supes energies which is infinite potential and throwing it back and at desame time Blue Supes would be absorbing those energies and Supes solar energies. There is really nothing Superman can do against this guy..

Going by on panel showings, and feats, what T-vo does simply, is turns off the opponents powers and gives you their powers except even greater then what they (the opponent) originally had, and I guess the innate knowledge of how to use those powers too since supes was pretty nifty at using those powers.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Going by on panel showings, and feats, what T-vo does simply, is turns off the opponents powers and gives you their powers except even greater then what they (the opponent) originally had, and I guess the innate knowledge of how to use those powers too since supes was pretty nifty at using those powers.

If it where like that he could leterally go up against the like of Lt/
FP Spectre/Eternity and win the fight since you were saying there is no limit/infinite is T-vo.... Dominus was defeated cause of understamating Superman.. Simple..

Originally posted by General Kon-El
What's T-vo?

Tivo how it is really spelled is a cable network that lets you record pause rewind and search for tv shows you don't want to miss for more information blah blah blah that was just a joke.

Torquasm-Vo is a kryptonian warrior discipline where they get to fight on a physcic plaine or some kind of weird ass physcic power shit.

has the power even been officially described so people can stop guessing!?

seriously there are various lvls of infinite there are an infinite # of negative integers but if u include all positive integers as well thats more than all negatives and if u include all #s period including imaginary ones and all real ones that larger than all integers.

infinite... all desame...